[News] Wild buying out Parise and Suter

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I recall the fanfare of these signings at the time but really these signings didn't lead to any success in regards to winning a cup. Now the Wild are saddled with paying them a lot of money not to play for them and some major cap hits.

Hindsight is 20/20... I don't know... these sorts of proclamations after the fact seem silly to me.

[Toonage]

Wild Bill Guerin doing that 4D chess.

Protect Dumba. Get Eichel. Re-sign Kaprisov. Bring back Suter & Parise on $1M deals.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by Flames1217

I think the flames had to prove that it wasn't the initial plan and the signing had to get the league's approval if I remember correctly.

This is what I believed as well.

[Scroopy Noopers]

It’s not like it’s something you could easily do as a team. The player gets less money on a buyout… why is that player then going to turn around and do the team a favour? That’s why there isn’t a rule against it, because it’s not necessary.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Huh. I thought they'd changed that rule after Stone (and whoever the Hawks did it with that one time).

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

It’s not like it’s something you could easily do as a team. The player gets less money on a buyout… why is that player then going to turn around and do the team a favour?

Maybe not a favour, but Suter's now a UFA, right? So he goes and tests the market and finds out what he can get. Then Minnesota offers him that same market value. Now he doesn't have to move and nothing changes. He still gets his buyout money plus market value, which was all he ever was going to get anyway.

I could see a player re-signing under those circumstances. Particularly if the team tells him, look we're buying you out but later this summer will offer to re-sign you for $X. You can take that or test the market and come back to us.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Hindsight is 20/20... I don't know... these sorts of proclamations after the fact seem silly to me.

What hindsight? Did anyone really think at the time of the signing announcements that they wouldn't pay the price down the road? We are now down the road where they have to feel the pain and they don't have cups or much of any playoff success to show for it.

[Ashasx]

Have to imagine that Suter would cost less to sign at this point than Keith's current contract so just a wonderful couple days here.

[Enoch Root]

I agree that this is being done to go after Eichel. And I think Eichel makes more sense to Minny than to anywhere else.

Parise is an easy decision. I still think Suter has value and doesn't really make sense, unless A) you need the cap space for Eichel or something similar, and B) you expect to re-sign him for cheap (which is what I expect)

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Have to imagine that Suter would cost less to sign at this point than Keith's current contract so just a wonderful couple days here.

Just a hunch but I don't see either of these players signing north of the border. I don't think Suter would have ever been an option for the Oilers.

[TheScorpion]

I wonder about Suter going to MTL to reunite with Weber.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Huh. I thought they'd changed that rule after Stone (and whoever the Hawks did it with that one time).
Maybe not a favour, but Suter's now a UFA, right? So he goes and tests the market and finds out what he can get. Then Minnesota offers him that same market value. Now he doesn't have to move and nothing changes. He still gets his buyout money plus market value, which was all he ever was going to get anyway.

I could see a player re-signing under those circumstances. Particularly if the team tells him, look we're buying you out but later this summer will offer to re-sign you for $X. You can take that or test the market and come back to us.

Yeah you’re right. I guess I just don’t see that as very advantageous. If the player was any good then he’s going to get attention as a UFA.

[LGA]

Even if they somehow get Eichel, it's going to be a disaster for them. Kaprizov wants big money on a short term deal. Between Eichel, Kaprizov and the dead cap space, in years 2-4 of the buyout that's going to be 35ish million for 2 players and 2 players that aren't even there. On top of that, acquiring Eichel is going to probably wipe out their higher end prospects. It's basically an all in for a year.

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I agree that this is being done to go after Eichel. And I think Eichel makes more sense to Minny than to anywhere else.

Parise is an easy decision. I still think Suter has value and doesn't really make sense, unless A) you need the cap space for Eichel or something similar, and B) you expect to re-sign him for cheap (which is what I expect)

The Wild don't have the cap structure moving forward to acquire Eichel while remaining competitive.

[t0rrent98]

Man, sucks to be the Wild right now i guess... Kaprizov supposed turned down a 8 by 8 deal as well.

[genetic_phreek]

Seriously though, I know a lot of people think they can be a better NHL GM than some of the current ones in the league, and when you see moves like this, it confirms that those people probably can be.

I just don't get it, you only save a big cap hit for this upcoming season. If they didn't buy out Suter and Parise, most likely the two players retire after this season anyways with actual salaries of 2,1,1 million per unless they are dead set on playing out the contract.

[icarus]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

signed 13 years for $98M; played 9 years, will get $94.7M

Good for them. Bad for Bill Guerin to have to clean up the mess bequeathed to him (though former Oiler, so: haha!)

I'd love to see a retrospective about all the 10+ year deals that started with DiPietro's 15-year deal and became so en vogue.

EDIT: I just realised DiPietro signed that in 2006, so I guess it would have just finished this year had it not been bought out. Wow.

[Geeoff]

I bet if the Oilers had offered 2x5.5 for Suter he would've taken it

[Buff]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I wonder about Suter going to MTL to reunite with Weber.

I doubt it. I feel Suter would stay in the USA. I mean, if he is determined to keep playing and Montreal was his only option, then it certainly could tempt him, but I think he'll have enough American teams interested in signing him.

[SuperMatt18]

I can kind of see buying out Parise.

But Suter led them in ice time during the regular season and playoffs last year and is still easily a top 4 d-man.

That makes no sense.

[browntrout]

Wow..that a huge buyout cap per year. Shocked they were not put on LTIR, maybe the NHL is finally clamping down on this