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Old 05-27-2021, 01:10 PM   #41
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1 - Mackinnon
2 - Crosby
3 - Kucherov
4 - McRegularSeason
5 - Kane
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Old 05-27-2021, 01:44 PM   #42
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If Matthews was on any other team I imagine I’d see him on more lists than Scorpions. Y’all are crazy.

Crosby
MacKinnon
Matthews
Barkov
Stone
And then you list Crosby as the best.

He isn't. Not anymore.
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Old 05-27-2021, 02:15 PM   #43
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1. McDavid
2. Mackinnon
3. Matthews
4. Hellebuyck
5. Panarin
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Old 05-27-2021, 03:14 PM   #44
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I don't care much for regular season performance. Get to the show, and then...

Crosby, Bergeron, O'Reilly, Kucherov

This year could be Barzal's year.
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Old 05-27-2021, 03:29 PM   #45
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Should do each position. Those would be great threads, with polls added of course.
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I think Panarin is close, in the 6-7 range, simply because he has excelled on each team he's gone to, which points to him being a catalyst.
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Old 05-27-2021, 04:26 PM   #47
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For me it’s a bit of would you trade player A for Player B...

McDavid
Mackinnon
Matthews
Crosby
Bergeron

There isn’t a single player there I would trade straight up for Makar or Hedman.

I wouldn’t trade Mackinnon for McD, that’s not as far off as Sportsnet would feed you though.

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Old 05-27-2021, 04:51 PM   #48
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I don't care much for regular season performance. Get to the show, and then...

Crosby, Bergeron, O'Reilly, Kucherov

This year could be Barzal's year.
Schiefele just won a cage match with McDavid.
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Old 05-27-2021, 04:58 PM   #49
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I know it’s a Flames forum so I really shouldn’t be surprised, but there is no reality in which Connor McDavid isn’t the best player in the world. None. Zero. I know we’ve all been conditioned to nitpick his game, and I agree that Crosby in his prime was a better player, but as it stands today there is nobody even close to him. MacKinnon included.

1. McDavid
2. MacKinnon
3. Crosby
4. Matthews
5. Panarin

I think there’s a clear top three and after that it’s debatable. But McDavid not at #1 is just a laughable take at this point. He is easily my least favourite player in the league but not admitting he’s the best player in the game is something I won’t do.

The really overrated guy on the Oilers is Draisaitl. Dude is not even close to being in the same realm as those guys.
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Old 05-27-2021, 05:13 PM   #50
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1. MacKinnon
2. McDavid
3. Kucherov
4. Crosby
5. Marchand

I feel quite a few have forgotten about Kucherov.
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Old 05-27-2021, 07:44 PM   #51
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I know it’s a Flames forum so I really shouldn’t be surprised, but there is no reality in which Connor McDavid isn’t the best player in the world. None. Zero. I know we’ve all been conditioned to nitpick his game, and I agree that Crosby in his prime was a better player, but as it stands today there is nobody even close to him. MacKinnon included.

1. McDavid
2. MacKinnon
3. Crosby
4. Matthews
5. Panarin

I think there’s a clear top three and after that it’s debatable. But McDavid not at #1 is just a laughable take at this point. He is easily my least favourite player in the league but not admitting he’s the best player in the game is something I won’t do.

The really overrated guy on the Oilers is Draisaitl. Dude is not even close to being in the same realm as those guys.
Frankly, calling McDavid #1 is absurd.

Sure, he’s the best offensive talent. However he’s mediocre at best defensively, gives no leadership, and his give a crap meter has never gone over about a 3/10.

If I have to pick one player to win one playoff game, McDavid isn’t even on the list of considerations.
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Sid is, Alex isn't.
Going by the last 4 playoff stats and lack of success I would strongly disagree. BTW I'm Crosby's #1 fan think he's the best player since Mario, easily.
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Old 05-27-2021, 07:49 PM   #53
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Mackinnon
Crosby
Kucherov
Mcdavid
Matthews

Honourable mentions -
Panarin
Barkov

I wouldn’t include D, too hard to place and where. We don’t currently have a Lidstrom or Pronger.
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Old 05-27-2021, 07:57 PM   #54
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During Ovechkin's best seasons he sucked defensively too. He, like Yzerman before him, was also called poor leader - until he wasn't. But that never stopped people from putting him #1 or #2 behind Sid.

McDavid will no doubt be voted the best player not just by the media but the players themselves, again, this year. I would hardly call anyone putting him #1 absurd.
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Old 05-27-2021, 10:41 PM   #55
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I don't care much for regular season performance. Get to the show, and then...

Crosby, Bergeron, O'Reilly, Kucherov

This year could be Barzal's year.
Barzal has been underwhelming this POs.
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Old 05-27-2021, 10:58 PM   #56
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1. MacKinnon
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Old 05-27-2021, 11:13 PM   #57
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Old 05-28-2021, 08:16 AM   #58
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For me it’s a fantasy draft scenario where you’re picking a team for 1 game/series/year:

Crosby
Bergeron
MacKinnon
...trade down, but if I can’t...
Hedman
Josi


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Old 05-28-2021, 10:03 AM   #59
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Re Crosby: He currently has 1325 points in 1039 games (imagine if he hadnt missed so much time) He currently sits at 34th all time. If he gets 100 more points he would rise to 17th. How many more years/points do you think he has in him??
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Old 05-28-2021, 10:17 AM   #60
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Frankly, calling McDavid #1 is absurd.

Sure, he’s the best offensive talent. However he’s mediocre at best defensively, gives no leadership, and his give a crap meter has never gone over about a 3/10.

If I have to pick one player to win one playoff game, McDavid isn’t even on the list of considerations.
McDavid can't get it done when it matters most.
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