Which player do you most want to see gone?

[FBI]

Also I’m sure Monahan will go on to dominate on another team, so I just hope we get something great for him.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by FBI

Also I’m sure Monahan will go on to dominate on another team, so I just hope we get something great for him.

Yes, the next Emil Heineman!

[troutman]

It would not break my heart to see what we could get for Tkachuk.

[FlamesAddiction]

There aren't really any players I am pining to get rid of. I think we need to move on from some of them and improve almost every position, but I don't have a lot of preference on who stays and goes at this point. Lindholm is the one I wouldn't want to see go. If Gaudreau is really intent on re-signing (and the price is fair), then he is worth keeping. But no one is untouchable at this point. I don't think there is a single current player on the team that is in "franchise player" territory.

[cannon7]

I don't hate the player, but I'm ready to move on from Mark Giordano as captain.

[BagoPucks]

Gio, Backlund and Lucic. Would love for them to stay but the leadership didnt get it done. Time to move on

[bluejays]

The original question to me on this team is about the production to salary ratio. This team has an overpayment problem. The obvious one is Lucic, but he was one of a few that actually played hard this year. So my answer wouldn't be Lucic. Instead I think the team would be best to move on salary-wise from Backlund. He'd be my number one based on salary as you probably wouldn't get a high return anyway. He doesn't disgust me or anything - it's just his salary. I do think two of Tkachuk, Gaudreau and Monahan need to be explored to see who would get the best return to rebuild for the near term. I'd lean to keeping Tkachuk, based on skillset, but that $9MM is a high price tag for a guy who won't carry the team like true skillset superstars like MacKinnon or McDavid would.

[timbit]

Ideally, you’d like to see all...or at least some of the top skill players bring some leadership/ high end character/ competitive/ courage attributes to the team.

Which of the skill players fulfill those roles when Gio, Lucic and Backlund are gone?

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by timbit

Ideally, you’d like to see all...or at least some of the top skill players bring some leadership/ high end character/ competitive/ courage attributes to the team.

Which of the skill players fulfill those roles when Gio, Lucic and Backlund are gone?

It's a good question. I do believe the Flames have messed this up at times in the past by giving it to a hard worker, but the general feel around the league these days tends to be a skilled player who can score. I think it brings credibility too when you do that. Tkachuk took a step back this year but it should be him if he can get it together again. I know it seems like a longshot given where he stands in Sutters' eyes right now but I'd think Dube could be that guy in the future.

[cowtown75]

Monahan.

[InternationalVillager]

I think you need to replace the leaders - Gio and Backlund.

Monahan needs to be groomed to take Backlund's role. Simple as that. This organization screwed up Bennett's development when he had more raw skill than Monahan BECAUSE of Backlund. He complained to management that he wanted a scoring/top 6 role and associated ice time. He did not want the third line role so Bennett was relegated to never having a top 6 center opportunity because they sure weren't playing Monahan on the 3rd line.

Now that they're playing Gaudreau-Lindholm-Tkachuk, it's time to move on from Backlund and play Monahan as the 2C which is what Sutter called him.

Gaudreau-Lindholm-Tkachuk
XXXXXX-Monahan-XXXXXX
Dube-XXXXXXXX-Mangiapane
Lucic-XXXXXXXX-XXXXXXXX

I think that this team is 2 - top 6 forwards, a 3rd line C (who should NOT be getting paid 5M) and a couple 4th line higher skilled vets to round out the bottom 6.

I think the Flames should go after Hoffman. He is a proven goal scorer and will help improve the Powerplay. He has a wicked shot.

[Iggy Snipe]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

I think you need to replace the leaders - Gio and Backlund.

Monahan needs to be groomed to take Backlund's role. Simple as that. This organization screwed up Bennett's development when he had more raw skill than Monahan BECAUSE of Backlund. He complained to management that he wanted a scoring/top 6 role and associated ice time. He did not want the third line role so Bennett was relegated to never having a top 6 center opportunity because they sure weren't playing Monahan on the 3rd line.

Now that they're playing Gaudreau-Lindholm-Tkachuk, it's time to move on from Backlund and play Monahan as the 2C which is what Sutter called him.

Gaudreau-Lindholm-Tkachuk
XXXXXX-Monahan-XXXXXX
Dube-XXXXXXXX-Mangiapane
Lucic-XXXXXXXX-XXXXXXXX

I think that this team is 2 - top 6 forwards, a 3rd line C (who should NOT be getting paid 5M) and a couple 4th line higher skilled vets to round out the bottom 6.

I think the Flames should go after Hoffman. He is a proven goal scorer and will help improve the Powerplay. He has a wicked shot.

Lindholm not a #1 center
Monahan not a #1 center

Dube NEEDS to play center. Hopefully this happens, and he will naturally become Calgarys top line center. He skates incredibly well, and that is his draft position. Calgary is doing to him what they did to Bennett. Forcing him to play wing.

It is so sad to me that a guy like Dube is being put on the wing, when he out skates every one of the Flames centres. A center needs to be FAST. A center must play at both ends, support the D/ the breakout etc. Monahan is WAY too slow to do this at a high level. Lindy is WAY more effective on the wing.

DUBE needs to be playing center for Calgary, regardless of who is in the lineup. He is too smart of a player to be wasted like Sam Bennett did.

[Jimdon]

Originally Posted by Iggy Snipe

Lindholm not a #1 center
Monahan not a #1 center

Dube NEEDS to play center. Hopefully this happens, and he will naturally become Calgarys top line center. He skates incredibly well, and that is his draft position. Calgary is doing to him what they did to Bennett. Forcing him to play wing.

It is so sad to me that a guy like Dube is being put on the wing, when he out skates every one of the Flames centres. A center needs to be FAST. A center must play at both ends, support the D/ the breakout etc. Monahan is WAY too slow to do this at a high level. Lindy is WAY more effective on the wing.

DUBE needs to be playing center for Calgary, regardless of who is in the lineup. He is too smart of a player to be wasted like Sam Bennett did.

Londholm had the numbers to be a number one center this year.

Dube was drafted 56th overall, how is that a draft position of a number 1 center?

[timbit]

Dube is the Flames upcoming 1C? Naturally?

That’s your plan?

May want to rethink that.

[DJones]

As long as Monahan gets treated as a 2C for here on out, no reason to trade him at his absolutely lowest value.

Most of these suggestions seem to be change for the sake of change with no clear path of how that willa ctually improve the team

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Iggy Snipe

Lindholm not a #1 center
Monahan not a #1 center

Dube NEEDS to play center. Hopefully this happens, and he will naturally become Calgarys top line center. He skates incredibly well, and that is his draft position. Calgary is doing to him what they did to Bennett. Forcing him to play wing.

It is so sad to me that a guy like Dube is being put on the wing, when he out skates every one of the Flames centres. A center needs to be FAST. A center must play at both ends, support the D/ the breakout etc. Monahan is WAY too slow to do this at a high level. Lindy is WAY more effective on the wing.

DUBE needs to be playing center for Calgary, regardless of who is in the lineup. He is too smart of a player to be wasted like Sam Bennett did.

Dube is not ready for the center role let alone the #1C role. This isn’t the entitlement thing that Darryl was talking about. You can’t just give the kids the keys to the bus and expect them to take the team to where they need to be. They have to out right steal the position from the top guy and he had enough trouble trying to just stay in the lineup.

I’m a big speed guy and I very much appreciate Dube’s wheels. But there’s more to speed than a guy’s top skating stride. There’s turning, pivoting, acceleration and etc. There’s also speed with the puck which would be very important for him to develop if he were to play up the middle. So I’m not really sure if the other aspects are there just yet. Playing Dube on the wing until he proves he can be a centerman is perfectly fine with me. Lindholm is a decent stopgap for now.

[Goriders]

From the big ticket group monahan

From the supporting cast nesterov.

[Brick]

Nm

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Jimdon

Londholm had the numbers to be a number one center this year.

Dube was drafted 56th overall, how is that a draft position of a number 1 center?

#79 Brayden Point, #45 Patrice Bergeron say hi. BUt sure, Dube won’t be a 1C. But he probably should be a C.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Iggy Snipe

Lindholm not a #1 center
Monahan not a #1 center

Dube NEEDS to play center. Hopefully this happens, and he will naturally become Calgarys top line center.

If Dube becomes half the player Lindholm is, the Flames will be very satisfied.