Johnny Gaudreau - re-sign or trade?

[Iggy Snipe]

If you trade him, you need to replace a 70 + points. Your power play just got worse as well.

If you don’t trade him, you risk losing him for nothing.

Tough call. In a perfect world, I would like to re sign him in the off season, for similar money as he is getting now.

It will be exactly like the TJ Brodie effect. We all wanted him gone, so that’s what happened but now we don’t have a defenseman who can move the puck up ice.

You lose Johnny, and you lose offence. It’s a rebuild if Johnny isn’t on this roster.

[ComixZone]

If we trade Johnny, it has to be because he wasn't going to sign an extension here.

And if we trade Johnny, it's a rebuild because he is the most talented player on a team that is starved for talent - and there's no way we're getting a player as good Johnny in that trade.

[Joborule]

I'd prefer to re-sign him since he's an elite level playmaker that aren't that common around the league, and if you lose him, you gotta have a replacement for the point production that he does, and can bring.

Ideally if Gaudreau can be locked up for long term, then either the Flames already have the players on the roster (Lindholm/Tkachuk) that can play with him, and bring back his point production level to around the 99 point mark he reached a couple years back. Otherwise the next step is trying to bring a high level player in that can compliment him well to do just that.

If he can't be re-signed, then you put him out on the market now and get the best deal you can for him since he would be a hot commodity. Only reason I would trade him although he could be re-signed is if you're getting an elite level centre in return to address a long time organizational need. But it depends on the deal because ideally that's exactly the type of player you want Gaudreau to be playing with. So exchanging other players would be better.

Flames biggest weakness is offense. So moves made this offseason should be work done in improving it, rather than making it worse just for the sake of change. I feel Gaudreau is a key component in improving it, but just needs the right support.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Iggy Snipe

If you trade him, you need to replace a 70 + points. Your power play just got worse as well.

If you don’t trade him, you risk losing him for nothing.

Tough call. In a perfect world, I would like to re sign him in the off season, for similar money as he is getting now.

It will be exactly like the TJ Brodie effect. We all wanted him gone, so that’s what happened but now we don’t have a defenseman who can move the puck up ice.

You lose Johnny, and you lose offence. It’s a rebuild if Johnny isn’t on this roster.

Not necessarily.

Trade him for a bad contract that will get you 60 points, a good contract that will get you 50 points, and a promising player that has potential to maybe get to those lofty heights during their career.

Gaudreau + another piece for Voracek, Konecny, and Frost for example.

We're in a better position IMO. We actually pick up production and have a futures player we desperately need. We can be good without rebuilding, the trades just have to be done with intent and use our cap to the max.

[Geeoff]

I'd have a flowchart

Is Johnny willing to re-sign to a reasonable deal? No - Trade him.
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yes
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Are there any offers out there that knock your socks off? No - Re-sign him
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Yes
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Trade him

So, I guess the answer is I would find out what Johnny wants to do but also shop him, however not trading him just for the sake of trading him.

[CalgaryFan1988]

I would trade him. I'm in the camp that believes he's moving east in free agency.

[MrMike]

I think he’d be crazy not to sign a nice long fair extension as soon as he could, I’m thinking 7x7. The Flames and him could have an even worse season next year and with the flat cap I could see him maybe getting a 4-5 year max deal at around 6.5

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Happy to post a poll but unsure how to word it as both scenarios depend on several factors
- What can you get in a trade
- What is the term and $ on a possible extension?

Open to suggestions on how to word the poll but a simple sign or trade seems to simple to reveal how people feel.

Yeah thats definitely a huge factor too.

If its 8M or more, then the trade option gets more traction...unless you want to keep him over Tkachuk which i think would be bonkers.

[robbie111]

Keep him and sign him. He's been really durable and is dynamic and playing a much better defensive game lately. He's proven over the last 15 games that he can adjust and flourish under Sutter. He only drops off when he is playing with injured players which is understandable. 100 percent keep him.

[Sandman]

If management decides to rebuild, trade him. If they decide to re-tool (which they of course will), and Johnny is willing to sign-then sign him. He's still the big dog on offence, and he needs guys to play with. Looks good for Sutter too.

[Geeoff]

I actually think that Johnny could be a good asset to a "rebuilding" team because he's such a good playmaker that he can feed a rookie for 20 goals or something.

[Dion]

You talk to his agent before the draft and ask if he's willing to resign. If he says no then you field offers and get the best deal you can,

[Vinny01]

This is a tough question to answer simply trade or sign.

I think this roster needs a shakeup and I still believe Tkachuk makes sense as the most logical player to build around. I hope no matter what one of those guys is signed to a long term extension this summer.

Where keeping Gaudreau intrigues me is if the Flames can get Eichel in a trade. Unfortunately the only way to get Eichel is to have Tkachuk going the other way. I have been searching Eichel Flames on Twitter and it does seem Sabres fans are very interested in a deal around Tkachuk and Eichel and I honestly think if a deal like that goes down we won’t see a ton of +++ coming from the Flames. If the Flames can pull that deal off then they need to focus heavily on a Gaudreau extension because I don’t think gettting Eichel works without pairing him with Johnny.

On the flip side of the Flyers are willing to do a deal around Konecny and Patrick for Gaudreau I would make that trade immediately as it would allow the Flames to expose Backlund in expansion and adds 2 younger players to the roster. Patrick has potential to be a Bennett/Strome/Turris like pickup where he is quite a bit better on a new team with a fresh start. Konecny is the prize though and would be a Sutter style winger who I think still forms a great top line with Lindholm and Tkachuk.

The one thing the Flames cannot do is lose Johnny for nothing or wait until his NTC kicks in to make the deal

[btimbit]

Re-sign if they can, if he doesn't want to before his NTC kicks in then trade

[Zoller]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Happy to post a poll but unsure how to word it as both scenarios depend on several factors
- What can you get in a trade
- What is the term and $ on a possible extension?

Open to suggestions on how to word the poll but a simple sign or trade seems to simple to reveal how people feel.

Why not try it for now?

We could always change it in the future to a different poll couldn't we? Maybe this super simple poll will have some interesting results/discussion.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Re-sign him.

To me the problem of years of bad coaching is the issue and Johnny is an elite player

He is elite because of the plays he can make, that others can’t, when the team plays well and with pace. When they are playing without pace, the other team has time to neutralize him. And everyone else

What Bennett can do on a team with pace should be a lesson.

I don’t want to see the Flames lose an elite talent because they have been mismanaged for 5 years

[Displaced Flames fan]

It's an easy decision. If he wants to sign a long term deal to stay you sign him without blinking.

Then you get him some damn help.

If he balks at a long term deal you move him when you get an offer worthy of a player of his talent.

[Moneyhands23]

My long shot re-sign would be the flames getting 2nd OA in the draft and buffalo willing to take the pick and Monahan for Eichel. Also It would probably help to see Gio taken by Seattle to leave room to add a right shot right wing.

Then I would re-sign Johnny.


And yes I know that's very unlikely (also it may be better to just pick 2nd).

[Inferno]

If he wants to work out an extension this summer, re-sign him. If not, then trade him.

[ben voyonsdonc]

They should focus on re-signing him this off-season. If his agent seems unwilling to negotiate, they need to move him.