03-24-2021, 09:52 PM
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#41
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
He was in it until he figured out there was no way he could re-sign Stone. And Mike Stone had nothing to do with it. Not every player is tied to his brother, and the big reason Mike was here was his wife.
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OK so he didn't know till last minute? Incompetent.
His brother couldn't get the feel if he would sign here? Sure....
Excuses that make little sense.
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03-24-2021, 09:54 PM
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#42
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red
OK so he didn't know till last minute? Incompetent.
His brother couldn't get the feel if he would sign here? Sure....
Excuses that make little sense.
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Incompetent? The team was not allowed to speak to Stone until very shortly before the trade call. How else was he supposed to know?
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03-24-2021, 09:56 PM
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#43
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Franchise Player
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Competing with Vegas for a UFA contract
GL
Teams switch GMs and Brad is the shrewd GM that landed Stone for Vegas
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03-24-2021, 09:57 PM
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#44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
He was in it until he figured out there was no way he could re-sign Stone. And Mike Stone had nothing to do with it. Not every player is tied to his brother, and the big reason Mike was here was his wife.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Incompetent? The team was not allowed to speak to Stone until very shortly before the trade call. How else was he supposed to know?
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Oh yes. These guys never talk to friends or FAMILY.
Treliving wasn't there trying to find out if Stone was gonna sign. He knew he could sign him, just didint want to part with Valimaki.
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03-24-2021, 09:58 PM
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#45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Competing with Vegas for a UFA contract
GL
Teams switch GMs and Brad is the shrewd GM that landed Stone for Vegas
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He wasn't a UFA.
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03-24-2021, 10:03 PM
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#46
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red
Oh yes. These guys never talk to friends or FAMILY.
Treliving wasn't there trying to find out if Stone was gonna sign. He knew he could sign him, just didint want to part with Valimaki.
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You are the one making the completely unfounded assumption that Mike Stone somehow held the key to ensuring that Treliving knew everything he needed to about trading for his brother. Aside from tbe fact that this is—again—totally baseless, I'm pretty sure this would also qualify as tampering.
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Last edited by Textcritic; 03-24-2021 at 10:29 PM.
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03-24-2021, 10:04 PM
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#47
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red
He wasn't a UFA.
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Was the contract he signed with VGK immediately after he was traded buy anything besides UFA years?
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03-24-2021, 10:10 PM
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#48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
You are tbe one making tbe completely unfounded assumption that Mike Stone somehow held the key to ensuring that Treliving knew everything he needed to about trading for his brother. Aside from tbe fact that this is—again—totally baseless, I'm pretty sure this would also qualify as tampering.
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Oh the tampering. Wow, gotta grow up a bit. There is lots of tampering going around.
Baseless? Sure. And yours is what? A fact?
Let's keep in mind, the best player to ever play the game signed a max term deal in Edmonton. Just think about that. It's all about $$$.
Calgary can't land a Stone? Not when the GM seems unsure he wants the player bad enough.
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03-24-2021, 10:12 PM
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#49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Was the contract he signed with VGK immediately after he was traded buy anything besides UFA years?
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It was a contract extension. We did that with Lids and Hanifin.
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03-24-2021, 10:22 PM
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#50
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red
Oh the tampering. Wow, gotta grow up a bit. There is lots of tampering going around.
Baseless? Sure. And yours is what? A fact?....
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No, but you are the one labeling the GM incompetent for not doing something you imagine he didn't do, and something that was quite possibly against the rules.
"Grow up." Feel free to to take your own advice.
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03-24-2021, 10:41 PM
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#51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
No, but you are the one labeling the GM incompetent for not doing something you imagine he didn't do, and something that was quite possibly against the rules.
"Grow up." Feel free to to take your own advice.
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Oh please. The guy only had 6 years to get that RW. And sure, he was afraid of prison LOL.
You tell me to grow up? Lol, I grew up long ago. I'm so grown up that I can call BS when I see one.
Some day you will see it too.
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03-24-2021, 10:44 PM
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#52
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red
It was a contract extension. We did that with Lids and Hanifin.
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Vegas paid what they did because they knew they could sign him - he ended up making that clear to them. Calgary didn’t because, yes, they found out in the discussions that they had no shot at that.
Maybe, just maybe, people know about that stuff.
Mike Stone would never talk to Treliving about how much his brother would want to play here - that’s ridiculous.
ETA: Just to match Stone’s $9.5 Calgary would have to pay $11M. And that’s just to draw even with Vegas.
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03-24-2021, 10:48 PM
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#53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red
It was a contract extension. We did that with Lids and Hanifin.
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They were pending RFAs
Stone was a pending UFA
huge difference.
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03-24-2021, 10:49 PM
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#54
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red
Oh please. The guy only had 6 years to get that RW. And sure, he was afraid of prison LOL.
You tell me to grow up? Lol, I grew up long ago. I'm so grown up that I can call BS when I see one.
Some day you will see it too.
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Make #### up, then blame others for it. I know a straw man when I see it.
I'm done.
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03-24-2021, 10:50 PM
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#55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Vegas paid what they did because they knew they could sign him - he ended up making that clear to them. Calgary didn’t because, yes, they found out in the discussions that they had no shot at that.
Maybe, just maybe, people know about that stuff.
Mike Stone would never talk to Treliving about how much his brother would want to play here - that’s ridiculous.
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Wow, that is the tops.
Iam so glad you were available to let us peasants know what "really" happened.
I admire your arrogance. It's a skill than only a few possess. Good for you.
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03-24-2021, 10:50 PM
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#56
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
They were pending RFAs
Stone was a pending UFA
huge difference.
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RFAs without arbitration IIRC. But either way, Treliving obviously knew their price because their deals got done super quickly. RFA contracts are his strength.
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03-24-2021, 10:51 PM
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#57
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red
Wow, that is the tops.
Iam so glad you were available to let us peasants know what "really" happened.
I admire your arrogance. It's a skill than only a few possess. Good for you.
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I do have some inside info - do you?
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03-24-2021, 10:51 PM
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#58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Make #### up, then blame others for it. I know a straw man when I see it.
I'm done.
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Are you though? Biggest troll on this board is done? Nah...
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03-24-2021, 10:51 PM
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#59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
I do have some inside info - do you?
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Maybe I do? How do feel about that?
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03-24-2021, 10:52 PM
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#60
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red
Maybe I do? How do feel about that?
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If you do, they certainly didn’t tell you what the discussions were like.
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