03-17-2021, 10:44 AM
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#41
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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I didn't expect the Sabres to do anything this year. Not sure if Kruger is the problem, but he sure wasn't the solution. It's weird to me that he even became an NHL coach. The Oilers seemed to hire him out of nowhere, then he disappears for almost a decade and the Sabres hire him. It just never made sense to me as he had such little hockey coaching experience and never even played hockey at a really high level.
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03-17-2021, 10:50 AM
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#42
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I'm just trying to imagine what Calgarypuck would be like if the Flames lost 12 in a row
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03-17-2021, 10:56 AM
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#43
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Join Date: Jul 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geeoff
I'm just trying to imagine what Calgarypuck would be like if the Flames lost 12 in a row
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03-17-2021, 11:14 AM
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#44
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Feel bad for Krueger here - I thought he was a bit of a gem actually. Maybe it wasn't the right fit, or the right environment for him, but this should have happened sooner. I am sure Krueger will land back on his feet - if not the NHL, then back to European Football.
Buffalo has been a huge mess for a long time now. They are a poorly constructed team still, but they should have been better than this.
Don Granato is probably not going to change course here, so it will be interesting to see who they eventually hire, and how the players perform under him. Is Skinner that bad, or will he find new life now in Buffalo? That whole organization has some stink to it for too long now. I have usually liked the Sabres historically, but not this decade!
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03-17-2021, 11:24 AM
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: BC Nucks Hater
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Good guy, but teams can only have so much Edmonton stink in a locker room--once that gets on a guy, it's hard to get it off. Taylor Hall made it a little too much in Buffalo. Fortunately for us, Lucic found a shaman to perform some rites last off season to free him of it.
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03-17-2021, 11:40 AM
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aka Spike
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: The Darkest Corners of My Mind
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Originally Posted by Geeoff
I'm just trying to imagine what Calgarypuck would be like if the Flames lost 12 in a row
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03-17-2021, 11:41 AM
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There’s very little proof that Krueger is a good NHL head coach. Some people wanted him here IIRC, but probably based more on feeling that he was shortchanged by Edmonton than any actual evidence.
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03-17-2021, 11:46 AM
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It’s been mentioned before.
In 85-86 , Flames lost 11 in a row. Cliff Fletcher did NOT fire Bob Johnson.
Flames lost in the SC final to Montreal.
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03-17-2021, 11:50 AM
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by ReinhartonD
Good guy, but teams can only have so much Edmonton stink in a locker room--once that gets on a guy, it's hard to get it off. Taylor Hall made it a little too much in Buffalo. Fortunately for us, Lucic found a shaman to perform some rites last off season to free him of it.
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Lucic seems mature enough to separate himself from the No goodness of Edmonton.
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03-17-2021, 11:52 AM
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Don't click that link!
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Rural Alberta
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Geoff Ward is at home thinking, "I got fired after a one game winning streak?!?!!?"
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03-17-2021, 11:57 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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This needed to happen. Forget the record, Rasmus Dahlin has regressed hard from a potential #1D under Housley to a guy trending towards a bottom pair "maybe". They had to do something just to rectify Dahlin's development.
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03-17-2021, 12:42 PM
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#53
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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I don't know what this means, but i don't want it to mess up my narrative that Deadmonton skype-fired the one guy they needed.
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03-17-2021, 01:21 PM
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#54
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Originally Posted by dustygoon
I don't know what this means, but i don't want it to mess up my narrative that Deadmonton skype-fired the one guy they needed.
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He was their best coach in that decade of pure suck. Sadly, their dumb decision to choose Eakins over Kruger probably leads them to McDavid.
Alternate reality: Oilers keep Kruger and are just good enough to edge out the Flames the next season, though it's more because Burke pulls his head out of his stubborn ass and trades Cammi for a couple of 3rds (one of which we use to draft Point) and the Flames lose a few more down the stretch.
Calgary drafts 3rd that year, and selects: Sam Bennett. EDM gets Draisaitl 4th. EDM then decides to fire Kruger and hires newly available Adam Oates, because offence offence offence offence.
They finish below Arizona, who win the lottery and the Oilers get Dylan Strome at #3.
Arizona gets McDavid and we all scream conspiracy. Arizona continues to fail. Buffalo continues to fail. Edmonton fails so badly that the team is folded, and CGY is awarded Draisaitl in the dispersal draft as compensation for our proximity to their stank for so many years.
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03-17-2021, 01:27 PM
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#55
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Originally Posted by timbit
It’s been mentioned before.
In 85-86 , Flames lost 11 in a row. Cliff Fletcher did NOT fire Bob Johnson.
Flames lost in the SC final to Montreal.
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although thank god there was no calgarypuck back then! all we could do was call in and complain to John Henderson, and then read about the game in the paper two days later 
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03-17-2021, 01:52 PM
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#56
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Originally Posted by looooob
although thank god there was no calgarypuck back then! all we could do was call in and complain to John Henderson, and then read about the game in the paper two days later |
The PGT gifs after the Steve Smith own goal in Game 7 would have been pretty epic though...
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03-17-2021, 01:58 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: In my office, at the Ministry of Awesome!
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Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
This is why you don’t go ‘smartest guy in the room’
Wasn’t the deal with Kruger that he was supposed to be a great motivator?
His 19-22-7 in Edmonton was, I suppose, somewhat above expectations but he was coaching the team with the worst record in the entire decade. The worst team - that’s the lowest bar
It’s nuts to think you can take a young rebuilding team and put an inexperienced unsuccessful hockey coach behind the bench and somehow 2 wrongs make a right
Ted Lasso is a tv show. Not a blueprint
What the hell. I might as well throw a resume Buffalo’s way.
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Especially considering that if you base it on the reason he was hired, he actually failed.
Though considering how well run the Oilers and Buffalo have been, I suspect they may not have been able to figure that part out.
Man I can't wait for season 2!
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03-17-2021, 02:10 PM
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#58
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Originally Posted by Boreal
Hire a reputable President of Hockey Operations who will oversee the organization and designated proper roles. Owners own, managers manage, scouts scout, coaches coach, players play.
Dean Lombardi?
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This couldn't be more true. Kruger is a start. But they really need a reputable President of Hockey Operations.
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03-17-2021, 02:21 PM
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#59
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by powderjunkie
He was their best coach in that decade of pure suck. Sadly, their dumb decision to choose Eakins over Kruger probably leads them to McDavid.
Alternate reality: Oilers keep Kruger and are just good enough to edge out the Flames the next season, though it's more because Burke pulls his head out of his stubborn ass and trades Cammi for a couple of 3rds (one of which we use to draft Point) and the Flames lose a few more down the stretch.
Calgary drafts 3rd that year, and selects: Sam Bennett. EDM gets Draisaitl 4th. EDM then decides to fire Kruger and hires newly available Adam Oates, because offence offence offence offence.
They finish below Arizona, who win the lottery and the Oilers get Dylan Strome at #3.
Arizona gets McDavid and we all scream conspiracy. Arizona continues to fail. Buffalo continues to fail. Edmonton fails so badly that the team is folded, and CGY is awarded Draisaitl in the dispersal draft as compensation for our proximity to their stank for so many years.
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Flames tried to trade up in that draft, they had Draisatl at #1. Our scouting has gotten better, we just handicap them with the number of picks we give them, and we've haven't had a lucky year where we're bad in a strong draft.
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03-17-2021, 03:02 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by powderjunkie
He was their best coach in that decade of pure suck. Sadly, their dumb decision to choose Eakins over Kruger probably leads them to McDavid.
Alternate reality: Oilers keep Kruger and are just good enough to edge out the Flames the next season, though it's more because Burke pulls his head out of his stubborn ass and trades Cammi for a couple of 3rds (one of which we use to draft Point) and the Flames lose a few more down the stretch.
Calgary drafts 3rd that year, and selects: Sam Bennett. EDM gets Draisaitl 4th. EDM then decides to fire Kruger and hires newly available Adam Oates, because offence offence offence offence.
They finish below Arizona, who win the lottery and the Oilers get Dylan Strome at #3.
Arizona gets McDavid and we all scream conspiracy. Arizona continues to fail. Buffalo continues to fail. Edmonton fails so badly that the team is folded, and CGY is awarded Draisaitl in the dispersal draft as compensation for our proximity to their stank for so many years.
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Nelson might have been a better coach but who knows.
Here’s an argument: Oilers have never had a good coach, unless it’s Tippett. Sather and Muckler won cups but did exactly nothing after they left. Hitch was obviously good once, but not when he got to Edmonton because he couldn’t get them to play Hitchcock hockey. Pat Quinn was never really their coach and was past it when he sat in. McLellan got exposed in Edmonton like Babcock did on Toronto.
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