[Rumour] Hamonic to Vancouver on PTO. May have 1 yr deal in place

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Yeesh, some harsh takes in this thread.

My takeaway is that clearly Canucks management is sending the message that their non-Hughes D prospects aren't ready for primetime. Hughes might be the only under 30 guy on their blue line. Ok, I checked and Schmidt is 29, but you get the idea.

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Sorry but I am not impressed...he bailed on the Flames for the playoffs that were in a bubble but is going to travel and play now

It can be a pretty complicated decision. He did not know if this season would go or be canceled. I’m sure there have been many conversations between him and his wife about what is best for their family. He made a decision to miss the playoffs, I don’t think he made that decision while also thinking he’d miss an entire year of his career after that.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Sorry but I am not impressed...he bailed on the Flames for the playoffs that were in a bubble but is going to travel and play now

I said that is exactly what he did and some posters jumped down my throat about it. Well the proof is in the pudding now.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I don't think that is entirely fair. A lot of people were freaked out at the time but have come to terms with the pandemic.

Come on, there was the same info about the virus at that time as now. I get people love to make excuses for players but this is pretty clear. If anything he puts his daughter more at risk now for everything we know than playing away from his family in a bubble. He bailed on the team.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I'm going to get trashed for saying this, but yeah, all of the recent value signings are making the Tanev signing look even worse.

Tanev has already been declining for 3 years, is old, will be overpaid for 4 years, is injury prone, slow, and has no offense.
They could have signed Haula + Hamonic + Granlund (maybe even Hoffman) instead.
Plus, those would have all been shorter contracts on younger players.

It hurts now, but it'll hurt even more in 2 or 3 years. Especially with the flat cap.

Other value signings don't make him old or slow. Does it change the view on dollars? Sure, but that is true for every signing prior to the bottom falling out of the market. But you're just trying to bolster your (weak) argument with non-facts here.

[dino7c]

Employer created the safest work environment on earth and he sat out after already being paid millions for the season.

I would have liked to sit out work the last 8 months too.

[kukkudo]

Alright folks enough of the Hamonic bashing. Lets all move on.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Come on, there was the same info about the virus at that time as now. I get people love to make excuses for players but this is pretty clear. If anything he puts his daughter more at risk now for everything we know than playing away from his family in a bubble. He bailed on the team.

Well that's just not true.
Lost has changed about what we know about it including how it spreads.

And for all we know there could have been family reasons that we aren't familiar with that led to his decision to stay out of the bubble.

Or it could have been that he didn't want to not see his family for that long.

We simply don't know enough about why he made the decision he did then and why he's made the decision he is now.

But that won't stop some from casting judgement even though they really don't know much about the situation.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I said that is exactly what he did and some posters jumped down my throat about it. Well the proof is in the pudding now.

Yours was a stupid comment then and Dino’s is a stupid comment now. How can anybody ever question someone who puts his family before his job?

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Yours was a stupid comment then and Dino’s is a stupid comment now. How can anybody ever question someone who puts his family before his job?

Because the situation hasn't changed? Actually, playing now is a lot more unsafe than playing in a bubble.

That's fair he wants to protect his family and I respect that... but what changed? Did he run out of money? If so, surely he can pick up an office job somewhere and WFH.

Just seems like a hypocrite.

[Vinny01]

I really hope Hamonic does not outperform Tanev this year

[GirlySports]

Just seems more trouble than it's worth. Cant play in the East, must be a Western Canadian team, cant play in a bubble. It's been years of this.

Vancouver should be careful, they are building a good team and dont need such a problem. He could leave the team at any point for any reason.

[Geeoff]

Hamonic is a great person. I wish him well personally and failure professionally.

[DeluxeMoustache]

This is getting silly

Western Canadian team - sure, that’s the point of being UFA. How many people here have Johnny out the door to Jersey or Philly?

The suggestion that we knew as much about the virus and its transmission at the time of the bubble than we do now? Laughable

Embrace it. Why can’t you just be glad that he finds a home in the Canadian division that isn’t here?

[VilleN]

I can’t believe how hard it is for some people to understand that missing the playoffs and missing a full season are two entirely different decisions.

Hamonic, by all accounts, is a great person with a ton of character. Put the pitchforks away, this is ridiculous.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by keenan87

Because the situation hasn't changed? Actually, playing now is a lot more unsafe than playing in a bubble.

That's fair he wants to protect his family and I respect that... but what changed? Did he run out of money? If so, surely he can pick up an office job somewhere and WFH.

Just seems like a hypocrite.

Knowledge on the corona virus has changed dramatically since the playoff bubble. Do people forget that schools were closed , supermarkets had limited supply of foods ect when it started? I live in Victoria and the streets were bare during that time. Now we have way more cases and the streets are not bare. People have realized that life goes on, albeit different.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by keenan87

Because the situation hasn't changed? Actually, playing now is a lot more unsafe than playing in a bubble.

That's fair he wants to protect his family and I respect that... but what changed? Did he run out of money? If so, surely he can pick up an office job somewhere and WFH.

Just seems like a hypocrite.

End of the day he is 1000x more likely to catch Covid playing this upcoming season than he was in the bubble. When the bubble was announced i was surprised he bailed because I assumed it would have been a much more secure place than virtually anywhere else.

Hamonic sure seems like a great individual but I don’t blame some Flames fans for holding some resentment. It is not his fault that management vastly overpaid for his services but he was a huge letdown based on the price that ended up being a 12th overall pick + a couple of second rounders which really hurt the organization s ability to add at the deadline when they were first in the conference.

One of the reasons many people were not pissed when he opted out was because he did it for his family. I also think a lot of people were not upset because he wasn’t really needed. Had he been the elite shutdown 2/3 D we thought we were getting when he was acquired I think people would have been a little more upset he decided to bail on the team.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Yours was a stupid comment then and Dino’s is a stupid comment now. How can anybody ever question someone who puts his family before his job?

My "stupid" comment that has 30 "thanks"

There was ZERO risk to his family in the bubble...slight risk now

Disagree if you like but he bailed on the team IMO.


In the entire NHL what 2 NHL guys? sat out the entire playoffs and the other since retired. None of those guys care about their families?

I said at the time I was good with his decision unless he came back the second he started getting paid again. Here we are, glad he is on another team.

[AC]

Rask retired?

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Employer created the safest work environment on earth and he sat out after already being paid millions for the season.

I would have liked to sit out work the last 8 months too.

So, what you are saying is that you are just bitter. It blows my mind that people are resentful that Hamonic had the luxury to make this decision. It has NOTHING to do with you.