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Old 10-05-2020, 01:44 PM   #41
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Calgary obviously talked to Hamilton/his agent before come on now.

Anyway think what you want...you seem to have an agenda though.

Honestly it's all irrelevant now anyway

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Old 10-05-2020, 02:00 PM   #42
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Calgary obviously talked to Hamilton/his agent before come on now.

Anyway think what you want...you seem to have an agenda though.

Honestly it's all irrelevant now anyway
I'm surprised you are so defensive at the prospect of Treliving looking to make this trade with the plan of signing Hall once he got him. Those were definitely the terms that NJ was dictating and if you believe the Flames were close it makes some sense.

The idea that Treliving's history shows that he is more likely to make deals only with a new contract in place doesn't seem accurate to me.
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Old 10-05-2020, 02:15 PM   #43
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The reason the deal didn't happen is that the Devils preferred the Coyotes offer. I thought that was fairly well established, no?

And at no point did I state what I believed was a certainty so please don't put words in my mouth.

Hamilton, Hanifin and Lindholm were all RFA's that signed after their trades. With regards to Hamilton, I recall Treliving stating explicitly that Boston had made him aware of Hamilton's salary demands and he therefore felt confident they would get something done easily. What history are you referring to where Treliving made a deal with an extension in place?

The Coyotes traded for Hall with no extension in place. The Flames were presumably competing with that offer and I guess trying to score Vatanan as well. Why do you see it as such an insult to Treliving that he felt confident he could sign Hall?
You yourself have just shown why this would be different. Hall would be a UFA, not an RFA, and just like the attempt to trade for Stone, things fell apart because the Flames were unable to negotiate an extension. Just because the Coyotes were willing to trade for less than a full season of Hall doesn't mean that the Flames were, and in fact, to do so would be inconsistent with how Treliving has previously operated (with respect to the Stone attempted trade/negotiations).

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Old 10-05-2020, 04:22 PM   #44
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If 95% of the board disagrees with you...you just might be wrong
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Old 10-05-2020, 09:42 PM   #45
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I actually really appreciate threads like this. I hate the "this was discussed on page 185 of 8 million pages in mega thread X" stuff. Not a chance most of us are actually keeping up with the dozens, sometimes hundreds of posts a day in threads like that.

This is the first I'm hearing of this because it's now a thread for a big news piece, so thanks to the OP.
I didn't mean to come off this way, apologies to Shadowlord and everyone else.I meant to reply to his comment that he hadn't heard that content anywhere, and I worded it wrong.
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I actually really appreciate threads like this. I hate the "this was discussed on page 185 of 8 million pages in mega thread X" stuff. Not a chance most of us are actually keeping up with the dozens, sometimes hundreds of posts a day in threads like that.

This is the first I'm hearing of this because it's now a thread for a big news piece, so thanks to the OP.
Just join the special exemption club like me. You'll be given a pass when you can't spend your day on a computer trying to keep with what's being posted. In fact PepsiFree might be able to sponsor you
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