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Old 03-03-2020, 02:30 PM   #41
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If you are looking at rule changes, how about making it icing regardless if the linesmen thinks the defensman can get to the puck or not. If the player clears the zone hard enough to cross the icing line and a defender doesn't touch it, it is automatically icing (if he beats the opposing player to the hash marks)...............take the judgement calls out of it.

I think the opposite. More waved off icing, to speed up the game.

The intent of icing was to not reward a team for relieving pressure.

Consider a good stretch pass that just misses. Wave it off. It wasn’t a desperate team trying to dump the puck out, it was an aggressive team trying to score.

Don’t penalize that
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If you are looking at rule changes, how about making it icing regardless if the linesmen thinks the defensman can get to the puck or not. If the player clears the zone hard enough to cross the icing line and a defender doesn't touch it, it is automatically icing (if he beats the opposing player to the hash marks)...............take the judgement calls out of it.
If there is one thing the NHL is consistent on its that when they make a rule change that ends up being ridiculous, they stick with it.
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Old 03-03-2020, 02:32 PM   #43
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That’s exactly what this fixes. Most of the long offside reviews I’ve seen they have been trying to decide if the skate is off the ice or not.
Because that’s how offside is defined now.

So now they need to determine if part of the players body further away vertically from the line is over the line? Oh, that oughta end well
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Old 03-03-2020, 02:36 PM   #44
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Because that’s how offside is defined now.

So now they need to determine if part of the players body further away vertically from the line is over the line? Oh, that oughta end well
... that isn’t difficult. This is how they determine who finishes races. It’s as simple as a vertical red line.
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Old 03-03-2020, 02:40 PM   #45
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... that isn’t difficult. This is how they determine who finishes races. It’s as simple as a vertical red line.
Well, the finish line of a race is clear before it is crossed, and everyone is going the same direction...

And not being “difficult” doesn’t contemplate that this is being handled by the NHL
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Well, the finish line of a race is clear before it is crossed, and everyone is going the same direction...

And not being “difficult” doesn’t contemplate that this is being handled by the NHL
I could feel myself alley-oop’ing you that one. I agree.
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So they are making it harder for linesmen to make the call on the ice so it will be easier to make the call on video? Seems like overthinking to me. Just get rid of the stupid offside review and live with the odd missed call.
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Get rid of the coaches challenge (or really limit them)and have it like the NFL where the war room reviews all scoring plays to make sure they are legit.
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I think the solution to this is twofold:

1) Eliminate all on-ice video-review, and have everything done in Toronto by third-party officials.

2) Set a strict time-limit on reviews. The call has to be made within 30 seconds, or something to that effect.
I'd like to see all goals deemed in the net called good goals, and replay only to overturn them to non goals.

Do away with the poor guy on the ice trying to make a snap judgement at light speed where he says no goal and then the threshold to overturn the initial call is too steep to make a good goal stand.
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I'd like to see all goals deemed in the net called good goals, and replay only to overturn them to non goals.

Do away with the poor guy on the ice trying to make a snap judgement at light speed where he says no goal and then the threshold to overturn the initial call is too steep to make a good goal stand.
I’m on the other side here. Probably would like to see how many calls are actually overturned before even beginning to consider this

Maybe you could get them to agree to be paid less if you are reducing their decision making ability
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Old 03-03-2020, 04:58 PM   #51
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An idea for a change; if a player takes a penalty in the last minute to prevent a tying goal the 3rd period is extended by a minute or until a tying goal is scored. You're supposed to try to not take a penalty but there's no downside to mugging a player with under ten seconds to go.
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An idea for a change; if a player takes a penalty in the last minute to prevent a tying goal the 3rd period is extended by a minute or until a tying goal is scored. You're supposed to try to not take a penalty but there's no downside to mugging a player with under ten seconds to go.

Well... the Flames would have nothing to worry about

*grumble, grumble*
*stupid Nashville*
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An idea for a change; if a player takes a penalty in the last minute to prevent a tying goal the 3rd period is extended by a minute or until a tying goal is scored. You're supposed to try to not take a penalty but there's no downside to mugging a player with under ten seconds to go.
Maybe award a penalty shot for any infraction in the defensive zone with less than 10 seconds left on the clock? That would make for a pretty strong deterrent.
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Not that it matters much when the officiating is so incompetent.
Lol.No doubt! I am on board with replacing the ref decisions as much as possible. Chip in the puck, sensors on the lines or whatever.

Also the coaches should be able to publicly call out b.s reffing without getting fined to death

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Old 03-03-2020, 05:31 PM   #55
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For offside calls, the review should take 3 seconds. If you can't tell it's off side by a single replay of the television feed, call on the ice stands. That would fit the spirit of the rule as it was intended.

Course, soccer is dealing with the same problem, as VAR was originally brought in for "clear and obvious" misses only. But now they too are measuring off-sides in millimetres and pausing multiple times every match to re-assess pretty much any carded foul.
Once replay is brought in it has to be by the mm. That's why people are against it.

Say you look at it once and confirm the call. All the telecasts will find other angles and if you're wrong you're in trouble.

It has to be all or nothing.
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An idea for a change; if a player takes a penalty in the last minute to prevent a tying goal the 3rd period is extended by a minute or until a tying goal is scored. You're supposed to try to not take a penalty but there's no downside to mugging a player with under ten seconds to go.
We need to flush this out.

So it's 5 on 4 with 1:10 left, a minute has been added.

1. If the PP team scores does it go straight to OT?

2. What happens if the PP team takes a penalty in the extended time? Is the game automatically over?

3. What happens if the PK team takes another penalty in the extended time? Is it a 5 on 3? Does another minute get added?

3b. When does the first guy come out of the box?

3c. If the PP team scores on the 5 on 3, does the game go to overtime or do they continue 5 on 4 to win in regulation?
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Get rid of he off-side review completely and live with the occasional linesman mistake. The game would be a lot better for it.
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The thing with the plane concept that I don’t like: skates in the air. You want those really sharp objects on the ground as much as possible, not incentivizing sticking it out as far as possible.
I doubt anything would happen. But skates being suck out at as close to hip level as possible to stay onside seems like a bad idea to me.
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The biggest news out of the GM meetings imo is the tracking tech in the pucks which will debut for the playoffs. Would’ve been nice in ‘04....
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