12-18-2019, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric Vail
I think he'd be an improvement over some of the garbage the Oilers dress in their bottom 6. Is the quoted $1.25 million salary, for the entire season or what's left? I can't see that being a problem.
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That's what I was thinking!
I didn't realize the guy is 27 though. Probably pretty much what you see is what you get at that point.
I mean he's not really going to replace the grindy, PKing garbage like a Sheahan, Archibald, or a Granlund.
And he doesn't score enough to replace the one way scoring garbage like Neal and Gagner.
So with there being not much chance of potential left, what's the point in making a claim on him?
I wouldn't be upset if the Oilers do it, as you never know which garbage could end up having chemistry with McDavid, but I don't see him as a guy likely to move the dial at all either.
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12-18-2019, 05:45 PM
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#42
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Franchise Player
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Had high hopes Czarnik would blossom here. Be a late bloomer like Marchessault or something. Or at the very be something that could eventually earn the Flames an asset as opposed to being waiver wire fodder.
Guess not.
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12-18-2019, 05:48 PM
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#43
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
Byron 2.0, calling it now.
When he got the ice time, he produced. When he got quality line mates, he produced.
Someone with cap space is going to claim him.
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Sure. And if he does get claimed, we will still have guys like Dube and Mangiapane in our lineup producing at a better clip.
For Czarnik's sake, I hope he does get claimed. Because he's been surpassed here. To the point that his loss wouldn't affect us in the slightest.
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12-18-2019, 06:11 PM
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#44
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Makes some sense to me, especially with Ray Edwards as a new assistant coach. Focus on the development of our own drafted players. Czarnik is 27 after all.
Last edited by Braden; 12-18-2019 at 06:14 PM.
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12-18-2019, 06:56 PM
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#45
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geeoff
They would have to waive him again to send him to the AHL. If the Flames claimed him back off waivers, the Flames could freely send Czarnik to the AHL.
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And a team could trade for him in the minors, and keep him there.
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12-18-2019, 07:26 PM
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#46
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
27's just a good hockey number. It should be worn by an impact player (preferably a defenseman), not a 13th forward. Like 19 - very difficult to win a Stanley Cup with a David Jones or Chuck Kobasew wearing those digits.
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Like John Tonelli
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12-18-2019, 07:34 PM
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#47
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2018
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Sure. And if he does get claimed, we will still have guys like Dube and Mangiapane in our lineup producing at a better clip.
For Czarnik's sake, I hope he does get claimed. Because he's been surpassed here. To the point that his loss wouldn't affect us in the slightest.
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I think the Flames want to keep him, along with all the players they have. I believe they chose to put Czarnik on waivers because they think he is the least likely to be claimed. Although there is a good chance he does get claimed. His higher salary makes him less attractive to claim than Rieder.
Good guy to have in the system as you can move him into the lineup at any time. Perhaps they trade a player, or trade two roster players for one. That combined with an injury and he could be back in the lineup.
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12-18-2019, 07:57 PM
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#48
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Sep 2003
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Last edited by Trolleydodger; 12-18-2019 at 07:59 PM.
Reason: double post
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12-18-2019, 07:58 PM
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#49
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Sep 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
27's just a good hockey number. It should be worn by an impact player (preferably a defenseman), not a 13th forward. Like 19 - very difficult to win a Stanley Cup with a David Jones or Chuck Kobasew wearing those digits.
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Frank Mahovlich won 6 cups.
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12-18-2019, 08:01 PM
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#50
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Where does a small soft skilled player that doesn't score much fit in?
I will be shocked if he is claimed or if he ever plays in the NHL again.
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12-18-2019, 08:04 PM
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#51
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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This guy was pretty good too.
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12-19-2019, 06:48 AM
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#52
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Powerplay Quarterback
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If he does clear waivers on the way down to Stockton, and does well there, does he also become eligible to be claimed by other teams if/when the Flames decide to bring him back later in the season?
Last edited by Steve Bozek; 12-19-2019 at 07:40 AM.
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12-19-2019, 06:50 AM
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#53
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Bozek
If he does clear waivers on he way down to Stockton, and does well there, does he also become eligible to be claimed by other teams if/when the Flames decide to bring him back later in the season?
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No. Re-entry waivers are no longer a thing.
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12-19-2019, 07:24 AM
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#54
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
It’s quite simple. Jankowski is the more valuable asset. He’s more nhl proven and plays the more important position.
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That, and Czar is coming back from a high ankle sprain which I believe is a hard injury to come back from skating-wise and skating was one of his attributes. He needs ice time to get back up to speed.
I believe he will clear waivers. He'll get a chance to get his skating legs back, get some ice time, hopefully find his mojo, and then he can be recalled when needed.
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12-19-2019, 07:34 AM
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#55
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doctorfever
I think the Flames want to keep him, along with all the players they have. I believe they chose to put Czarnik on waivers because they think he is the least likely to be claimed. Although there is a good chance he does get claimed. His higher salary makes him less attractive to claim than Rieder.
Good guy to have in the system as you can move him into the lineup at any time. Perhaps they trade a player, or trade two roster players for one. That combined with an injury and he could be back in the lineup.
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Of, of course the Flames want to keep him. And I expect they will. But if he does get claimed, it's not going to hurt us any.
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12-19-2019, 08:15 AM
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#56
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
Where does a small soft skilled player that doesn't score much fit in?
I will be shocked if he is claimed or if he ever plays in the NHL again.
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Probably won't be claimed but I think there's a good chance he plays for the Flames again this season
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12-19-2019, 09:44 AM
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#57
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Geeoff
Probably won't be claimed but I think there's a good chance he plays for the Flames again this season
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I think he clears and is traded, a team having the flexibility to move him up and down without adds value to him. I could see the Pens being interested and when they get healthy sending him down would only carry a cap hit of 175k
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12-19-2019, 10:03 AM
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#59
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Drew Shore 2.0
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12-19-2019, 10:04 AM
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#60
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tvp2003
Czarnik clears (per Friedman)!
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While Noesen and Comrie were claimed. A little surprising.
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