Waiver wire Sept 30. UPD: Kulak, Peluso, and Lazar clear. Ducks claim Aberg

[The Boy Wonder]

Personally hoping they send mangiapane down tomorrow and keep both Andersson and valimaki up with the main squad. Andersson has played great hockey and would be a real slap in the face if he has to go down because of stone

[RedHot25]

Originally Posted by savardandjokinen

Aberg is an interesting one. Would like him better than Hathaway but probably not worth it

Just reading things but...no. Nashville traded him, most Edmonton fans are extremely disappointed in him, etc. I also question his commitment; within first week or something with the Oilers he missed a bus or was late for some meetings or something of the sort?

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Surprised they’re waiving Kulak again. Why not try to swing a trade to Toronto? They need more defensive depth and we need a better backup goaltender. Seems like a trade could be there.

Sometimes a trade is easier to complete after a player has gone through waivers, as he can be assigned directly without risk of losing the player you just acquired.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Looking pretty good for my prediction that formenton scores more points than Lazar this year....

I just don't pine on these types of issues ... not saying you are in any way.

Formenton looks like he's Lazar two years ago, may or may not progress.

Dube looks good compared to Russell and his 4x4 contract (plus Polock has taken a step).

Parsons is money in the bank compared to Hudler.

Calgary got a 2nd for Giguere
Calgary paid a 2nd for Kiprusoff.

The wheel goes round and round.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Assuming the Flames do send Kulak, Peluso, Lazar down if they clear, they only need to make 1 cut on defence and 1 cut in goal to make a 14f 7d 2g roster.

Which implies both Dube and Mangipane made the opening day roster and one of Valimaki and Andersson made it too. Rittich the likely backup.

Of course the Flames can still waive players tomorrow before the roster deadline.

We may not be seeing any more Ricardo old roster posts.

[jlh2640]

This is just the start but we will see if they all clear as they should

[mrdonkey]

I'm glad the Flames have seemingly learned from the mistakes of the past and sent down Peluso. Was not expecting that. Would be nice if the same could be done with Prout as designated goons have no place in today's NHL, but as a #7D, whatever.

Glad to see Lazar waived as well. Nice guy who simply adds nothing else.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by devo22

I actually hope Lazar passes through waivers. Sens threw him into the NHL immediately and he never got AHL time to work on aspects of his game. Going to Stockton and putting up some points might be good for him.

He and Bennett should have both worked their way into the NHL. Both were rushed imo.

[jlh2640]

Either way if we can get some of the other guys waiver exempt it will be good to have the depth and let guys rotate as needed

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

I'm glad the Flames have seemingly learned from the mistakes of the past and sent down Peluso. Was not expecting that. Would be nice if the same could be done with Prout as designated goons have no place in today's NHL, but as a #7D, whatever.

Glad to see Lazar waived as well. Nice guy who simply adds nothing else.

Lazar has the smarts and the speed ... he doesn't seem to be able to process the game at the speed required to contribute offensively. That usually suggests he's pretty much done, but there is a chance that at 85% AHL speed (guess on %) that he may find some of that game back and be a factor down the road.

[Anduril]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Yeah Zach Kassian went on a bender and ended up in rehab opening up a forward spot on the Habs. How could Treliving not see that coming?

Or how about not knowing about Habs management were watching YouTube videos and happening to stumble on Byron highlights by chance? Lack of foresight by Treliving imo

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

He and Bennett should have both worked their way into the NHL. Both were rushed imo.

Bennett proved he was more than ready with an 18 goal rookie season at age 19

[mikeecho]

Exciting in theory, but waivers isn't a guaranteed trip to the AHL. I'm hopeful the Flames are leaning in the right direction, but these moves could be all about slipping guys through the waiver wire while keeping all options open.

[kehatch]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Sometimes a trade is easier to complete after a player has gone through waivers, as he can be assigned directly without risk of losing the player you just acquired.

I was about to post the same thing. Waiving Lazar/Kulak now means they probably pass through unclaimed due to the number of players on the wire and other teams trying to get compliant. That gives Treliving more flexibility if he wants to make a trade / claim Monday or Tuesday. it also gives other clubs the ability to send those guys to the AHL without the risk of them getting claimed.

The Flames could send them down, keep them up, or trade them. This just buys him flexibility.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Macindoc

Flames made the right choices. I'm relieved, I was worried they might keep Peluso.

I would have absolutely no problem whatsoever with Peluso as the 14th forward.

[burnitdown]

Kulak must be happy he got that one-way deal. He was outplayed by a few D so he may not get another crack at the NHL level for a bit. At least he'll earn a good pay cheque without affecting our cap.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Bingo

We may not be seeing any more Ricardo old roster posts.

Come on. Get real, Bingo. Ricardodw’s posts seldom make any sense. Why would he start now?


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[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I just don't pine on these types of issues ... not saying you are in any way.

Formenton looks like he's Lazar two years ago, may or may not progress.

Dube looks good compared to Russell and his 4x4 contract (plus Polock has taken a step).

Parsons is money in the bank compared to Hudler.

Calgary got a 2nd for Giguere
Calgary paid a 2nd for Kiprusoff.

The wheel goes round and round.

Exactly. It goes both ways. Sometimes it's good to trade a player for a 2nd, and sometimes it's good to trade a 2nd for a player.

Having a one-dimensional, inflexible view one way or the other is how you get into trouble.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Hopefully Hathaway and Prout are the ones to go.

I would rather they both stay up. There will be a forward and a defenseman in the press box most nights, and I would much prefer those players are not one of Valimaki and Anderson, and one of Mangiapane and Dube. One of the young forwards and defensemen needs to play in the AHL.


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[Enoch Root]

Question: is Mangiapane still waiver-exempt?