Tkachuk is not signing a new contract this summer. His agent is banking on him having a really big year that will push his value into a long-term deal that likely starts with the number "seven." I have no doubt that the Flames would love to sign him today, but Tkachuk is smart enough to wait and maximize his own value.
If Gaudreau’s contract didn’t break the Gio cap then I don’t think Tkachuk’s will either. The numbers won’t start with a 7 until after the Gio contract expires, and the team will probably give up term in order to make that happen (if he takes a step forward this year).
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Have to think that Stone and Frolik deals are out there, but thankfully Brad has the Brouwer buy-out as his backup if those deals aren't favourable.
I wonder if a trade is holding up finalizing the deal or if Noah's camp is too far away. There's no 'grace period' where we can be over the cap is there?
Have to think that Stone and Frolik deals are out there, but thankfully Brad has the Brouwer buy-out as his backup if those deals aren't favourable.
I wonder if a trade is holding up finalizing the deal or if Noah's camp is too far away. There's no 'grace period' where we can be over the cap is there?
I think you can be 10% over until the 23 man roster is due. It’s how teams like Detroit with LTIR survive
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Have to think that Stone and Frolik deals are out there, but thankfully Brad has the Brouwer buy-out as his backup if those deals aren't favourable.
I wonder if a trade is holding up finalizing the deal or if Noah's camp is too far away. There's no 'grace period' where we can be over the cap is there?
You can be over the cap until the first day of the season.
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So technically, Noah could sign and we'd be waiting to see what happens with one of those 3 up to that point potentially?
Yup no issue there. Could also start burying guys in the minors and replacing them with cheaper cap hits to squeeze under the cap by the deadline. For example burying Brouwer and calling up Klimchuk would create ~325k in cap.
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Yup no issue there. Could also start burying guys in the minors and replacing them with cheaper cap hits to squeeze under the cap by the deadline. For example burying Brouwer and calling up Klimchuk would create ~325k in cap.
I could be wrong, but doesn't Brouwer have a No Movement Clause which prevents him from being transferred to the AHL?
If Gaudreau’s contract didn’t break the Gio cap then I don’t think Tkachuk’s will either. The numbers won’t start with a 7 until after the Gio contract expires, and the team will probably give up term in order to make that happen (if he takes a step forward this year).
Gaudreau also had no leverage so its definitely possible if Tkachuk has a big year the contract could start with a 7.
So technically, Noah could sign and we'd be waiting to see what happens with one of those 3 up to that point potentially?
Although the Flames' cap issues aren't much of a secret, it's never nice negotiating a trade from a position of 'I already overspent and need to make a deal to recover'. I would expect that they Flames will determine exactly how they will free up the cap and much cap space they have prior to signing Hanifin. He's an RFA without arbitration - it's not like he's going anywhere. For all we know, the general contract is pretty well agreed upon, but they're waiting to shuffle other contracts before finalizing.
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If Gaudreau’s contract didn’t break the Gio cap then I don’t think Tkachuk’s will either. The numbers won’t start with a 7 until after the Gio contract expires, and the team will probably give up term in order to make that happen (if he takes a step forward this year).
Playing as a 20 year old on a line with Frolik and Backlund (a combined -40) Tkachuk scored 24 goals the combined total of what Frolik and Backlund did and was a -1.
put Tkachuk with Monahan and Gaudreau with Backlund and their point totals would be considerably closer.
Adding Neal and Lindholm will be a boost to Tkachuk as he will have quality linemates.
I think between Jankowski and Ryan that whoever is on their game any given night is the guy who will be centering Bennett and whoever wins the 3rd line right wing between Frolik and all the young guys battling for a spot. Thinking how Peters thinks when it comes to adjusting the roster on the fly while having ‘Pairs’ on each line I could see something like this (Pairs are the single players without a / while the interchangeable players are listed together with a / with the mainstay being listed first)
If Gaudreau’s contract didn’t break the Gio cap then I don’t think Tkachuk’s will either. The numbers won’t start with a 7 until after the Gio contract expires, and the team will probably give up term in order to make that happen (if he takes a step forward this year).
I don't believe that there is a "Gio cap." If there ever was one, it has long since become completely impractical. Treliving's efforts to keep everything under seven have been impressive, and I expect have much more to do with his desire to maintain a manageable payroll than ensuring that no one ever out-earns his captain.
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I don't believe that there is a "Gio cap." If there ever was one, it has long since become completely impractical. Treliving's efforts to keep everything under seven have been impressive, and I expect have much more to do with his desire to maintain a manageable payroll than ensuring that no one ever out-earns his captain.
I don't think anyone is suggesting Treliving's motiviation involves anything but this.
I've also read that Keith Tkachuk made something like $70-80M over his career. Not sure if it would mean Matthew might be willing to take less but it could...
I've also read that Keith Tkachuk made something like $70-80M over his career. Not sure if it would mean Matthew might be willing to take less but it could...
Tkachuk, who had two years left on a five-year contract, had insisted he would return to the fold only if he gained financial concessions in an extension that would place him among the NHL's highest-paid players at his position.
And not only was he a holdout himself, but he supported his teammates in holding out.
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Tkachuk made the same calculated move in early November 1997 when he took his feelings about Oleg Tverdovsky's contract (or lack thereof) status to the media. Tkachuk said G.M. Bobby Smith should sign him for the money he is asking as he is an extremely valuable member of the team. A nice sentiment but Tkachuk knew he was stabbing Smith in the back. Now Smith is even deeper under the gun as most fans will take the side of their captain over management. But this is how Phoenix operates. ''Getting'' management for all the dollars they are worth is the key factor, and they are led in this by their captain.
If he's a chip off the ol' block, that could be problematic for the Flames in negotiations :P
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He's a very important player . I don't know why but I feel we have something special with him and am hoping Peter's finds out quickly who works best with him and that this pairing does some serious damage scoring for us.
Hoping that either Jankowski and Bennett or Tkachuk match up well and show some promise for years to come.
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