07-05-2018, 08:48 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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A rescuer just died due to losing oxygen :/
A former Thai navy member
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/thai-ca...ygen-1.4736079
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07-05-2018, 08:55 PM
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#43
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Calgary
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:-(
How frustrating it must be for the rescuers to know where they are but have only bad options to choose from.
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07-06-2018, 01:14 AM
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#44
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Voted for Kodos
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The longer the boys are in there, the chances increase that more rescuers will die.
The dive seems to be extremely difficult. A diver there called it the Mount Everest of dives.
Trying to take the boys out right now by diving almost seems like a death sentence for them. It might be the only option they have, as more rain could flood the area they are in, AND they are running short on oxygen.
Sadly, I suspect that their will be more deaths involved in this story yet. Any trapped person that they get out of there will be a miracle. I do think there will be survivors among the trapped.
Worst case scenario happens right now, and they are forced to emergency evacuate the boys by diving, I suspect that some of them would die, and a few could make it. Some rescuers could very well die in that scenario too.
I think the only realistic way they all survive is to wait until the water level goes down.
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07-06-2018, 04:18 AM
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Location: SW Ontario
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Is there not some way they could enter from the outside via drilling a new entrance? I have no idea how that works so I don't know.
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07-06-2018, 04:55 AM
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#46
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Whispers of a dam+drilling operation about a km to the south are coming out. Lets hope anything works
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07-06-2018, 07:20 AM
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#47
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Last edited by 8 Ball; 07-06-2018 at 10:00 AM.
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07-06-2018, 07:20 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
Is there not some way they could enter from the outside via drilling a new entrance? I have no idea how that works so I don't know.
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They are quite far underground, so they would need to drill a long way. I think the time it would take plus perhaps the chance of it collapsing as they drill are concerns. I did hear one news report where people were searching the area to see if there was another natural opening closer to where they are.
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07-06-2018, 07:26 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Elon Musk has offered to send SpaceX and Boring Company engineers to offer assistance. He has also suggested the possibility of running a long nylon tube through the tunnels and inflating it so that the kids can just walk out like they walked in.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44735412
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07-06-2018, 07:43 AM
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Just heard they are running low on oxygen largely because there are so many people in the cave trying to rescue them.
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07-06-2018, 08:43 AM
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Dances with Wolves
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Section 304
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
Elon Musk has offered to send SpaceX and Boring Company engineers to offer assistance. He has also suggested the possibility of running a long nylon tube through the tunnels and inflating it so that the kids can just walk out like they walked in.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44735412 |
I mean surely it can't be that easy... but can it? I'm not an engineer so there must be some complexity here that I'm not seeing.
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07-06-2018, 08:45 AM
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Sounds possible... but I read they are about 3.5 kms in. And the tunnel winds and turns and goes up and down. Scary situation for sure.
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07-06-2018, 08:52 AM
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I read about the tube idea, and I don't know how they'd get a tube that big through a cavern system.
I don't know what the food situation is like, or the physical condition of the kids and their coach, but they have to be weakened by now.
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07-06-2018, 09:04 AM
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Voted for Kodos
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
Is there not some way they could enter from the outside via drilling a new entrance? I have no idea how that works so I don't know.
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It’s under a mountain, so it’s about 800m of drilling.
They don’t know where the exact point above the cave is. Mapping the exact point is difficult.
There’s no road to that point anyway. You would have to build a road up the side of the mountain, to a final position you don’t even know the place of.
When they rescued those Chilean miners years ago, they knew exactly where they were relative to the ground above, exactly what the ground between was made of, and could start drilling almost immediately.
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07-06-2018, 09:10 AM
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Voted for Kodos
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russic
I mean surely it can't be that easy... but can it? I'm not an engineer so there must be some complexity here that I'm not seeing.
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Building that tube, getting it into place, inflating it, and keeping it free of any water around sharp rocks would all be significant challenges.
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07-06-2018, 09:15 AM
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What a roller coaster story. When the story first broke and the rescue mission dragged on, I expected the worse. Then when the boys were found alive and relatively safe, hope soared. Now the situation seems very grim again, especially with the professional diver who died trying to help.
Still hoping for the best for these kids and coach.
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07-06-2018, 12:07 PM
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One of the Nine
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What a brutal situation. At this point, they pretty much need to drug the kids to put them to sleep, slap a scuba on them, zip tie it to their faces, and drag them out like Andy Dufresne and his leg bag, with someone at the rear, pushing and lifting.
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07-06-2018, 05:01 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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I guess with the boaring idea of tunneling them out the move would be to a nearby cavern then they scuba them into that and bring them out? I know Elon's helping and apparently his machines can boar pretty fast, but I wonder how fast because 1km that quickly seems like a pretty lofty goal.
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07-06-2018, 07:36 PM
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Voted for Kodos
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fleury
I guess with the boaring idea of tunneling them out the move would be to a nearby cavern then they scuba them into that and bring them out? I know Elon's helping and apparently his machines can boar pretty fast, but I wonder how fast because 1km that quickly seems like a pretty lofty goal.
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07-06-2018, 07:49 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Edmonton,AB
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I think their best bet is what they are doing damn it off then keep pumping it off wouldn't it be ?
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