[News] 18-19 Cap Projected at $78M-$82M

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by slybomb

Did the entry fee that Vegas paid go to HRR?
If so, then it might be possible that the cap retracts back after next season...I don't know how that works but it was a significant fee.

The expansion fee is not HRR as far as I know. I can't seem to find anything definitive on this at the moment, but that's what I recall.

EDIT: Here we go

Originally Posted by sportsbusinessdaily

Per the league’s collective-bargaining agreement, hockey-related revenue is split with the players before being divided equally among the clubs. The expansion-fee money is not considered hockey-related revenue and will be split solely among the owners. Beyond that, however, league and team officials believe that the Las Vegas franchise will perform comparably to what other teams secure for the dollars that are shared with the players — such as ticketing, media and sponsorship deals. League officials also believe the Las Vegas team will help the league with future national opportunities.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by slybomb

Did the entry fee that Vegas paid go to HRR?
If so, then it might be possible that the cap retracts back after next season...I don't know how that works but it was a significant fee.

Expansion fee's are not HHR mainly because you'd see the cap go up by about $8 million bucks based on $500 million, and then the next year it would drop back down by about 8 million dollars.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

It doesn't even make sense. The Canucks actually have young exciting players now, are fighting for a playoff spot, and the fans don't show up?

Hockey is too expensive. I try to spend as little on it as possible now. I'm not interested in lining the pockets of billionaire greedy owners, and spoiled brat millionaire hockey players. Both of which are glad to put a gun to the City of Calgary and hold the fans hostage for a giant hand out on a new arena they will only further enrich themselves on

[East Coast Flame]

So max salary could be up to about $16.4 mil?

I think some people on this board might have a stroke when they see what Karlsson and Doughty get paid.

[_Q_]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

It doesn't even make sense. The Canucks actually have young exciting players now, are fighting for a playoff spot, and the fans don't show up?

Why spend hundreds of dollars at the game when you can sit at home and watch it in HD?

I think there will be a market correction soon with ticket prices in Canada.

[CaptainCrunch]

I'm telling you the future of sports isn't big mega arenas. Its smaller arena's that are fully luxury, where every one that wants to go to a game is paying thousands for a booth or a box. The arena's will be completely wired with the most up to date camera, audio and other technologies. then they'll sell subscriptions to the fans. Why sell 16,000 tickets at an average of $200.00 each, when you can sell 1000 tickets at triple that and then get 100,000 people buy $30.00 per game subscriptions so that they can have all of the advanced stats flashing on the screen in Super duper 16 k video in 3d?

Its a easier sell job and the people that want to go to the game and be treated lavishly will pay the ticket and food prices that are through the roof.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by East Coast Flame

So max salary could be up to about $16.4 mil?

I think some people on this board might have a stroke when they see what Karlsson and Doughty get paid.

I kind of wish McDavid had waited until this off season to sign. The Edmonton media could have predicted $16.4m then suddenly claimed the Saviour was lowering his ask to $15.5 to allow the team to compete.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by East Coast Flame

So max salary could be up to about $16.4 mil?

I think some people on this board might have a stroke when they see what Karlsson and Doughty get paid.

If that's the case, will McDavid be kicking himself for listening to his agent signing a max year deal?

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

Tired of this 'valuable in the community rhetoric'. If he was gone another player would take his place. Most are required by their contracts to be visible in the community these days so it doesn't deserve accolades.

Doing something good for the community *always* deserves accolades.

"Tired of" it? Really? Is hearing something positive about a person that bothersome to you?

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I'm telling you the future of sports isn't big mega arenas. Its smaller arena's that are fully luxury, where every one that wants to go to a game is paying thousands for a booth or a box. The arena's will be completely wired with the most up to date camera, audio and other technologies. then they'll sell subscriptions to the fans. Why sell 16,000 tickets at an average of $200.00 each, when you can sell 1000 tickets at triple that and then get 100,000 people buy $30.00 per game subscriptions so that they can have all of the advanced stats flashing on the screen in Super duper 16 k video in 3d?

Its a easier sell job and the people that want to go to the game and be treated lavishly will pay the ticket and food prices that are through the roof.

Nobody's going to be paying $30 a game for anything sports related at home. You have the in arena future model likely pretty bang on, but the outside arena future is more likely that sports just aren't that big of a thing anymore, money wise, and teams won't get much revenue there, aka the market correction.

[Jacks]

Surprised that the players don't want to keep it down since that would lower the escrow that they hate so much.

Also, as much as this helps the teams in cap trouble it is a dagger for cap floor teams. Without Bolland's 5M on the books the Yotes wouldn't be compliant as is.

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by Jacks

Surprised that the players don't want to keep it down since that would lower the escrow that they hate so much.

This is just a projection and is dependent on whether or not the escalator clause is enacted again. That has yet to be decided.

[the2bears]

The good news about a potential cap increase is this gives Chia more money to over-pay Nurse with.

[Jacks]

Those people counting our future cap space shouldn't be budgeting over 80M. I doubt the team is going to lose money just to spend to the cap and they have maxed out their revenues.

[dammage79]

Really don't know if Backlund gets his payday from the Flames. Janko going to need to get paid, Bennetts going to get a raise most likely, then Tkachuk....

We will see where we are at come deadline day but I suspect Janko is going to ease whatever concerns anyone has of where do the find a suitable replacement for Backlund.

I'm so confused with Backs, to me he's a forever Flame but does that match the build cycle of the team.

[Fan in Exile]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

It doesn't even make sense. The Canucks actually have young exciting players now, are fighting for a playoff spot, and the fans don't show up?

Fairweather unknowledgeable fans.

[joejoe3]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

It doesn't even make sense. The Canucks actually have young exciting players now, are fighting for a playoff spot, and the fans don't show up?

[Flamenspiel]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I'm telling you the future of sports isn't big mega arenas. Its smaller arena's that are fully luxury, where every one that wants to go to a game is paying thousands for a booth or a box. The arena's will be completely wired with the most up to date camera, audio and other technologies. then they'll sell subscriptions to the fans. Why sell 16,000 tickets at an average of $200.00 each, when you can sell 1000 tickets at triple that and then get 100,000 people buy $30.00 per game subscriptions so that they can have all of the advanced stats flashing on the screen in Super duper 16 k video in 3d?

Its a easier sell job and the people that want to go to the game and be treated lavishly will pay the ticket and food prices that are through the roof.

All interesting points, my favourite new arena(not really that new anymore) is the Bell centre. They seem to have the best of both worlds. Great seats at all price points while having all the new luxury box style requirements that modern venues have. I think the Canucks and the Oilers fell short on their design, they basically have a nice lower bowl but very poor facilities and seating in the upper areas. I have been to some of the newer US arenas but they always have so many empty seats its hard to tell if they work well at capacity.

[Fire]

The Rogers TV contract is structured to pay out more every year of the deal. Part of the reason why you see the salary cap go up every year.

[Flamescuprun2018]

Working through the chess moves for the next couple years. Some very strategic cap management by Tre projected. There is very good chance our core can remain intact for many years. One of our top 4 D men likely to be traded but that may not be necessary for another 2 years!

Source: https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/flames

If we take the median of 80 million next year and project from this year's cap hit which is 72.8 million currently.

Forwards are at 39.1 million
Defence are 25.8 million
Goalies 5.0 million
Lack Buried 0.3 million
Current buyouts 1.8 million


Next year:

Forwards 39.1m - 3.1m (Stajan) = 36.0 with increases for Janko and Backlund + one new AHLer, other RFAs likely cost neutral.

Defence 25.8m with increases for Kulak

Goalie 5.0m with increase for Rittich

Lack gone, Buyouts only 0.9m

No overages likely since room on this years cap for all expected bonuses.

67.7 million total.
12.3 million to give Janko, Backlund, Kulak and Rittich raises from current salaries and add one AHL to replace Stajan.

Kulak and Rittich likely to only get 1 million raises. Janko perhaps 2 million raise depending on productivity rest of the way. AHLer is <1 million. Leaving over 7 million in cap space for Backlund increase.

I dont see Flames spending anywhere near the cap even when resigning Backlund unless one year deal only for top 9 RW (3-4 million range tops).

They will need plenty of cap for Tkachuk, Bennett and Ferland raises in 2019-20. Smith comes off books and Brouwer likely bought out of final year will help. Lets hope one of Rittich, Gillies or Parsons is ready for starter role by then.

Dont see any cap need to buyout Brouwer this off-season and have him on the books for another 4 years. Better to hope he can contribute on 4th line and SH for another 1 1/2 seasons despite his inflated salary.