Ok just found the video, looks like he's doing steep turns (but hard to tell if he's losing altitude from that video), of course a properly done steep turn one doesn't lose any altitude. You also don't/shouldn't do steep turns that low...
Just curious... assume a hard left bank/steep turn. Do you compensate with right rudder? is that enough? Don't you need a lot of speed in the turn to not lose altitude?
Definitely don’t apply opposite rudder to the turn direction. You’d still be adding left rudder in a left turn to keep everything coordinated. Roll left, left rudder to keep coordinated, apply power and pull back to get the turn going quickly. We’d practice steep turns at 45 degrees usually, and the goal was to hold your altitude throughout the turn. If I recall correctly exam tolerance was +/- 100’.
I was looking at the specs and the max speed for this thing was only 100mph which is pretty slow. I wonder if he was starting to get bored and thats why he was flying the way he was. People said that he was flying that way for a few days.
Very good article on the history of the cut fastball from a few years ago and worth reading for those interested in knowing what made Halladay so great. Doc struggled early in his career until he fixed his mechanics and became a typical young pitching prospect who relied on four pitches (fastball, curve, sinker and change-up). But when he discovered the cutter, he became a great pitcher.
Fangraphs shows that Doc relied more and more on his cutter as his career evolved, throwing the cutter 50% of the time by 2009, with his cutter/sinker combination making up three-quarters of his total pitches. He completely stopped throwing the fastball altogether.
You can see a splice in the video around 1:30. Stoner dude sees something then it cuts and stoner dude is freaking out.
No one jumped in so Im wondering if it was obvious there was no survivors from the impact, or if its shark infested waters or if fuel covered the water or if just millennial stoner dudes.
Without being there, you can't say you'd react a certain way, but with no obvious blood in the water, and it not likely being extreme cold, I think I'd have a very different reaction to those guys and jump in to help. He could've been underwater for 2 minutes by that point, but wouldn't it be a human reaction to jump in, especially in shallow waters with boats all around at that point? Sure it may have been fruitless, but knowing someone is in there who may be alive is enough to make you react like that was your family member.
Not to derail this thread with something too controversial, but a friend of mine who spent considerable time in Atlanta once told me that Americans are outwardly way more friendlier, but if you truly needed help, Canadians would be there for you. True or not, when I see this type of thing, I wonder.
Not to derail this thread with something too controversial, but a friend of mine who spent considerable time in Atlanta once told me that Americans are outwardly way more friendlier, but if you truly needed help, Canadians would be there for you. True or not, when I see this type of thing, I wonder.
I really don’t agree with that generalization of Americans vs. Canadians. There are incredibly brave and generous people on either side of the border.
Such a shame about Halladay. Just so needless and is obviously devastating for his kids.
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Not sure I would call it hotdogging. Looks like the guy was just having fun in a super cool plane, I'm sure I would have done the same. Still, looks like inexperience was his demise.
Without being there, you can't say you'd react a certain way, but with no obvious blood in the water, and it not likely being extreme cold, I think I'd have a very different reaction to those guys and jump in to help. He could've been underwater for 2 minutes by that point, but wouldn't it be a human reaction to jump in, especially in shallow waters with boats all around at that point? Sure it may have been fruitless, but knowing someone is in there who may be alive is enough to make you react like that was your family member.
Not to derail this thread with something too controversial, but a friend of mine who spent considerable time in Atlanta once told me that Americans are outwardly way more friendlier, but if you truly needed help, Canadians would be there for you. True or not, when I see this type of thing, I wonder.
With no training or equipment there's little these people could do to help and there's a good chance that they'll put themselves in danger trying to help.
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Not sure I would call it hotdogging. Looks like the guy was just having fun in a super cool plane, I'm sure I would have done the same. Still, looks like inexperience was his demise.
You do understand that had you done the same thing, you would have died. I've never seen anyone outside of a movie fly a plane that way.
You do understand that had you done the same thing, you would have died. I've never seen anyone outside of a movie fly a plane that way.
It's hot dogging.
The video really isn't that clear and it doesn't look that bad. It doesn't show the plane plummet into the water, but you're going with the random dude's comments and TMZ's headlines he was hotdogging....okay then.
The video really isn't that clear and it doesn't look that bad. It doesn't show the plane plummet into the water, but you're going with the random dude's comments and TMZ's headlines he was hotdogging....okay then.
Witnesses reported the day before he was skipping the hull along the water at high speed, one little twitch or even a wind gust could cause a wing tip to drop and the rest is....
According to the TMZ audio interview, it sounds like as he was climbing off the water a wind gust flipped him back over and he nose dived into the water.
So these planes are allowed to be flying that close to the water? With boats in the area, that seems really dangerous. Was everything he was doing legal? If not, why wasn't anything done about it since there were people who said they saw him doing dangerous maneuvers all week.
So these planes are allowed to be flying that close to the water? With boats in the area, that seems really dangerous. Was everything he was doing legal? If not, why wasn't anything done about it since there were people who said they saw him doing dangerous maneuvers all week.
I guess what he was doing could be perceived as a combo showboating/stunting act but as long as he wasn't too close to the boats in the area there's not likely much the cops could do, maybe a fine for endangerment of one's own life but that's about it. this aircraft is extremely unique and new, kind of a cross between a seaplane and an ultralight so it's unlikely stunts like this were ever a problem.
I've been following the ICON's development for 3 years now and still want one though
