Kevin Spacey accused of attempted rape by Anthony Rapp when he was 14

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Didn’t realise “Don’t blame the victim” and “I don’t like coming out being viewed simply as a tool for social gain” were divisive. I apologise.

Nice try again but you used the word “despicable” to characterize those with differing opinions. This is the kind of stuff that brings the forum down to personal attacks rather than solid discussion.

[2Stonedbirds]

If Feldman truly wanted to protect future victims and hold those who have committed sexual assaults accountable he wouldn't be waiting for his pockets to be filled to the tune of $10 mil, he would be naming names. Full stop. He's trying to cash in on the topic de jour, that combined with staying mum on uncovering assailants essentially means he's protecting predators for his own gain. Aka he's a peice of #### and no better than those supposed unknown assailants.

[RichKlit]

Maybe I remember wrong and I don't support the 10 million to name names but I thought both the Corey's have/had been fairly outspoken against Hollywood and the abuse and pedophiles that seem to populate Hollywood?

[Cecil Terwilliger]

This thread went about as expected. Good to see the trenches were dug early and the war of attrition is coming along nicely.

[stang]

Wasnt the age of consent 14 up here at that time?

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

This thread went about as expected. Good to see the trenches were dug early and the war of attrition is coming along nicely.

you shut your face or I'll send you over the top and into no man's land!

[bigtmac19]

Corey Feldman has been saying this for years, nobody would listen to him, claimed he was crazy or it's drugs talking etc.

Kevin Spacey's statement today is so vile, trying to excuse himself, and cover up the actual story, by coming out! Hopefully as in the Weinstein case this will start the flood, because apparently there are lots of stories to be told about Spacey.

Even better - James Toback has now made a statement that everyone accusing him of his disgusting behavior (all 300 of them) are "Either a lying c**ks**ker or C*** or both"

[Agamemnon]

Very interesting to see reaction to this... Kevin Spacey is a very well liked and cherished celebrity, almost Tom Hanks'ion in public adoration. I get the feeling he'll get a pass ultimately, Weinstein didn't have the public behind him, Spacey does (for the moment).

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Nice try again but you used the word “despicable” to characterize those with differing opinions. This is the kind of stuff that brings the forum down to personal attacks rather than solid discussion.

Again, that was a general comment on those who try to blame the victim. If you felt included in that, I apologise.

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by bigtmac19

Kevin Spacey's statement today is so vile, trying to excuse himself, and cover up the actual story, by coming out! Hopefully as in the Weinstein case this will start the flood, because apparently there are lots of stories to be told about Spacey.

I feel like he may have had to come out in order to properly attempt to defend himself... it's been a poorly kept secret that Spacey is gay, but at the same time he's never officially announced it.

I get that it seems like suspicious timing, but the 'defense' would have been worse if he said "I'm not gay, so that never could have happened or at least I don't remember it". People would have heaped a lot more dirt on him for any statement to that effect. I think he basically had to come out in order to respond in any kind of rational/realistic way.

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I've endured several unwanted advances from females over my lifetime and I expect many people have.

LOL

By all means please regale us with stories of how you were pinned to a bed by one or more of these women.


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[RichKlit]

Originally Posted by longsuffering

LOL

By all means please regale us with stories of how you were pinned to a bed by one or more of these women.


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Well that seems like a boneheaded response. Men can't be assaulted?

[Cecil Terwilliger]

What's with the thread title?

Anthony Rapp is not accusing Kevin Spacey of trying to rape him. We need to adopt the reddit policy that threads must have the same title as the article they reference. Why would anyone want to editorialize that title? Click bait? That's gross.

If Spacey does have a Weinstein like reputation, I'm sure he's going to be outed and have his day of judgement by the public but do we really need to try and sensationalize this story? It is kind of disgusting actually that people are salivating that this is the next salacious domino to fall and now we can all continue our judgement of Hollywood from afar.

This is yet another example of the entertainment industry letting people in positions of power take advantage of impressionable and usually young newcomers. It seems to be kind of a sick inside hazing ritual that you have to be sexually assaulted as part of your initiation. One of those "that's how it's always been and since I got hurt, I'm gonna hurt someone else" kind of situations.

And sadly, this is one of the tamer stories we've heard in the last few years. Between Weinstein, Cosby and others like Bryan Singer, thankfully this story begins and ends with Spacey making an advance, being told no thanks, and that being the end of the encounter. I hope this isn't a sign of much darker stories about to come and if it does, more power to the victims and screw Kevin Spacey and his amazing acting.

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds

If Feldman truly wanted to protect future victims and hold those who have committed sexual assaults accountable he wouldn't be waiting for his pockets to be filled to the tune of $10 mil, he would be naming names. Full stop. He's trying to cash in on the topic de jour, that combined with staying mum on uncovering assailants essentially means he's protecting predators for his own gain. Aka he's a peice of #### and no better than those supposed unknown assailants.

I can't recall if I've ever held an opinion similar to one held by 2Stonedbirds but Corey Feldman has made a career out of being a victim and seeking the spotlight. He made the rounds on at least one celebrity rehab reality show and did another exploitive reality show with Corey Haim.

Threatening to expose predators for the low, low cost of $10 million just further undermines what little credibility he has.

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[zamler]

Someone explain why the sexual orientation of Spacey or anyone else makes the slightest difference.

[Coach]

Yeah "attempted rape" seems like a very strong term to apply to what is described.

That's not absolving Spacey of wrong doing, he shouldn't be making advances on a child, but lets not accuse people of things they didn't do. At least not to this person.

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by RichKlit

Well that seems like a boneheaded response. Men can't be assaulted?

That's not what I wrote.

EE compared his unwanted flirtations with a 14 year old youth being pinned to a bed by a 26 year old man.



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[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by RichKlit

Maybe I remember wrong and I don't support the 10 million to name names but I thought both the Corey's have/had been fairly outspoken against Hollywood and the abuse and pedophiles that seem to populate Hollywood?

They were and basically nobody listened to them because their stars fell so quickly, or maybe they fell because they were talking, they didn't name names because that would have been the end of either of them being able to make any money.

Feldman is certainly not rich, he certainly doesn't have a name that can survive coming out and naming names. The really established actors can basically step forward because they're protected by their talent and their names and they can survive naming names. But you don't see a lot of actors with credits like "Girl in washroom" or "Guy delivering pizza" really stepping forward, because naming names might be heroic as hell, but it effectively ends any hope they have of having the Hollywood dream, so they basically suffer in silence while some creep with money and prestige presents his junk and says "You know what you have to do to get this role".

You look at what Feldman has stated that Haim was raped and sodomized because that's "What happens in Hollywood" He even talked about Haim being raped on the set of Lucas.

So yeah, I don't blame Feldman at all about getting something for naming names, because at the end of the day, he has to at some point look out for himself, because he might get backslapped for naming names, or labeled as a hero for naming names, but he'll have burned his bridge on the only industry that he's made money in, and trust me his weird michael jackson tribute band thing won't pay the bills.

I'm also going to say this, Kevin Spacey is absolutely deflecting with his "coming out" thing, he tried to force himself on a 14 year old at a party when he was 26, and now he's trying to deflect news stories. Even the LBGTG community is accusing him of trying to "Hide under the Rainbow". Spacey is pretty much untouchable as well, he's too successful and too talented to be crushed by this.

But its gross.

[RichKlit]

Yup seems like to some in here that the Corey's are a joke and maybe they are but I was pretty certain they had been vocal about the issue in Hollywood.

[OMG!WTF!]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Yeah "attempted rape" seems like a very strong term to apply to what is described.

That's not absolving Spacey of wrong doing, he shouldn't be making advances on a child, but lets not accuse people of things they didn't do. At least not to this person.

I think it's actually a lot more sinister than that. Luckily he stopped short of committing what would commonly occur after an older, influential, powerful man "groomed" a kid into his circle, his inner circle and finally bed. He took him to bars, nightclubs, parties...worked with him, likely coached him and was in every way a professional role model. He may not have "spiked his drink" but he certainly provided the drink. I think that's the beginning of a horrible crime that for whatever reason didn't fully materialize in this case. In one sense, kudos to Spacey for not being a 100% confirmed rapist and borderline pedophile. In another, let's hope no others confirm the above.