09-28-2017, 12:40 PM
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#41
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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I will be in row 2 on the goal line where Flames shoot twice. Going to wear my Tkachuk Jersey to this 1!
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09-28-2017, 12:41 PM
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#42
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
F.....Bart is going to be the #6.  |
Let's look at the silver lining, at least he's better than Wideman.
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09-28-2017, 12:42 PM
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#43
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdonkey
Let's look at the silver lining, at least he's better than Wideman.
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Not sure about that one...
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09-28-2017, 12:42 PM
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#44
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Hmmmmmmm
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Why do they insist on playing Bartkowski? Something isn't adding up if they don't see the same thing 99% of people watching him see.
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09-28-2017, 12:48 PM
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#45
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by calgaryblood
Why do they insist on playing Bartkowski? Something isn't adding up if they don't see the same thing 99% of people watching him see.
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Bartowski wouldn't have to play if a young D man came up and stole his spot from him. But that hasn't conclusively happened so there he is.
Moreover, Bartowski is a par for the course 6th D man. Not many teams can boast such defensive depth that their bottom pairing isn't an occasional liability.
I am not singling you out, but I get the sense that people are making a mountain out of a mole hill.
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09-28-2017, 12:49 PM
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#46
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Originally Posted by calgaryblood
Why do they insist on playing Bartkowski? Something isn't adding up if they don't see the same thing 99% of people watching him see.
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The thing they're seeing is that amongst the left handed defensemen up for the job, he was a bit better than all of them, plus he has a fair amount of NHL experience.
We can argue about whether or not it's a good idea to give the job to a 20 year old Andersson with limited pro experience and on his wrong handed side in Gulutzan's system. He's earned the right to be considered over Bartkowski I think. But I think there are a lot of factors going into this decision, both short and long term.
If either of Kulak or Wotherspoon had looked halfway competent, we wouldn't be where we are now looking at Bartkowski on the opening night roster.
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09-28-2017, 12:54 PM
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#47
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#1 Goaltender
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What an awful third pairing that is, hahaha. No shortage of pucks banged off the boards/glass to nobody in particular with those two.
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09-28-2017, 12:57 PM
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#48
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Sydney, Australia
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This is going to be my 3rd Flames game ever as I recently moved from Australia to Vancouver! Pretty Psyched that I'm getting a look at something closer to the regular season line up. I know it doesn't count yet... but GFG!
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09-28-2017, 12:59 PM
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#49
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Originally Posted by united
What an awful third pairing that is, hahaha. No shortage of pucks banged off the boards/glass to nobody in particular with those two.
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What? No. You're thinking of Engelland. Bartkowski is arguably a decent puck mover and Stone is ok at it. Bartkowski's issues come from decision making and defensive zone awareness. Stone is as good a #5 defenseman as you'll find in the league.
Honestly, can anyone think of a better player that's stuck playing in the 5 slot? Nobody comes to mind.
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09-28-2017, 01:05 PM
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#51
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Toronto
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I am less worried about the 6th d-man position and more worried GG catering to his vets over Jankowski. Player has earned his position on the opening night roster. This game would have been ideal to slot him in on that 3rd line or give him a chance on the wing. Hopefully Saturday night we see this. The motto is earned not given correct? Or something to that affect.
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09-28-2017, 01:08 PM
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#52
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Last year at this time it was Grossmann in that spot. We've upgraded.
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09-28-2017, 01:08 PM
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#53
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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Yeah people definitely overreacting about the third pairing. Bartkowski's decision making can be..... questionable. But Stone is good in his role.
Definitely a far cry from a Chris Butler and Shane O'Brien pairing. Or the Jokipakka - Engelland pairing we saw just under a year ago. Or heaven forbid... Grossmann
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09-28-2017, 01:12 PM
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#54
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Vancouver :(
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moneyhands23
I will be in row 2 on the goal line where Flames shoot twice. Going to wear my Tkachuk Jersey to this 1!
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I’ll be there as well rocking the same jersey! CP meetup?
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09-28-2017, 01:17 PM
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#55
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: An Island in the Atlantic
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Today is my 40th. GFG 
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09-28-2017, 01:27 PM
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#56
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Lifetime Suspension
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Lines per Canucks Army:
Canucks
Sven Baertschi – Markus Granlund – Brock Boeser
Sam Gagner – Alex Burmistrov – Jake Virtanen
Scottie Upshall – Brandon Sutter – Derek Dorsett
Darren Archibald – Michael Chaput – Jayson Megna
Michael Del Zotto – Troy Stecher
Andrey Pedan – Chris Tanev
Patrich Wiercoch – Alex Biega
Anders Nilsson
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09-28-2017, 01:30 PM
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#57
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: YYC
Exp: 
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Originally Posted by ASP#26525
Today is my 40th. GFG |
Happy 40th!
4-0 Flames win then?
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09-28-2017, 01:38 PM
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#58
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First Line Centre
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Hoping the next two games have the same top 6 and top 4 guys but with vets playing for spots in one game and young guys in the next game.
See what team looks better.
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09-28-2017, 01:39 PM
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#59
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Love
Lines per Canucks Army:
Canucks
Sven Baertschi – Markus Granlund – Brock Boeser
Sam Gagner – Alex Burmistrov – Jake Virtanen
Scottie Upshall – Brandon Sutter – Derek Dorsett
Darren Archibald – Michael Chaput – Jayson Megna
Michael Del Zotto – Troy Stecher
Andrey Pedan – Chris Tanev
Patrich Wiercoch – Alex Biega
Anders Nilsson
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That's an ugly looking lineup
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09-28-2017, 01:40 PM
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#60
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#1 Goaltender
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The land of misfit toys it appears.
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