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Old 09-26-2017, 04:26 PM   #41
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Crazy idea...... Can we ditch all our PTOs, and just pick up Nolan on waivers instead?
I will be surprised if the Flames sign any of their PTOs, and picking up Nolan on waivers will force them to keep him on the roster all year. No thanks.
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Old 09-26-2017, 04:32 PM   #43
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Glad to see that Jon Gillies is still being considered.
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With Andersson being a RH shot and our team deep at that position, and with GG wanting his L/R pairings on defence, does anyone else think that Andersson getting the extended look is because we're shopping him around?

I think the same thing with Gillies. that those two are part of a package we have on the table.

Bah, it's probably my imagination getting the better of me, but i have this suspicion that the Flames are rumoured to be "in" on a lot of deals because we have an offer on the table and leave it open. It seemed to work that way for both the Lazar and Hamonic deals. I wonder if it's there again but involving two guys who seem to have come in with strong camps.
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Old 09-26-2017, 04:33 PM   #45
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I will be surprised if the Flames sign any of their PTOs, and picking up Nolan on waivers will force them to keep him on the roster all year. No thanks.
The kind of players the flames brought in on PTO is a gritty/nasty 4th liner. Nolan seems a more effective player of that mold than any of the PTOs.
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Andersson has definitely been the best of the 3 hopefuls. I'm still doubtful they choose to play 2 righties on the 3rd pairing, but that would be my wish at this point.
Yeah, I would agree. I think he gets the full game in Vancouver playing with Stone and a decision is made based on that.
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The kind of players the flames brought in on PTO is a gritty/nasty 4th liner. Nolan seems a more effective player of that mold than any of the PTOs.
But unlike Nolan, the Flames will be able to move one of Glass, Gazdic or Cramarossa back-and-forth as they please between Stockton and Calgary. For the minuscule upgrade that Nolan might provide it is not worth it to keep him in the NHL all year.
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IMO Andersson has earned the 6th spot. Handedness is secondary to icing the best line-up.
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But unlike Nolan, the Flames will be able to move one of Glass, Gazdic or Cramarossa back-and-forth as they please between Stockton and Calgary. For the minuscule upgrade that Nolan might provide it is not worth it to keep him in the NHL all year.
Hmmm... the PTOs would have to clear waivers should the flames want to ship them to Stockton. No different than Nolan, no?
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Cut 3:
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I think Glass is by far the better of the 3 PTO's
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Yea I'd go Smith and Gillies.
With Gillies I honestly think it's mostly rebound control that needs correcting, some adjustments on his angles too, but IMO he's outperformed Lack from what I've seen.
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So...with Lack...can we waive him? (good chance a team would claim him as a backup?)
I really don't see Treliving doing that but just wondering...
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I would like to see Gillies get a full game next game.
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With Andersson being a RH shot and our team deep at that position, and with GG wanting his L/R pairings on defence, does anyone else think that Andersson getting the extended look is because we're shopping him around?

I think the same thing with Gillies. that those two are part of a package we have on the table.

Bah, it's probably my imagination getting the better of me, but i have this suspicion that the Flames are rumoured to be "in" on a lot of deals because we have an offer on the table and leave it open. It seemed to work that way for both the Lazar and Hamonic deals. I wonder if it's there again but involving two guys who seem to have come in with strong camps.
If the Avs scouts are at the next game you actually might be right.
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I think Glass is by far the better of the 3 PTO's
There are only two PTOs.
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Gazdic is not a PTO, I've gotten confused between him and Glass before as I think others are. At this point, I hope we cut the 2 PTOs and Gazdic, Gillies in net, and I would actually rather see Andersson in Stockton than up here. I think we keep Bart in the press box and risk nothing, while Kulak has proved he's NHL ready in his multiple stints up here.
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If Gazdic and one of the two PTO's make the team, why the hell do we need more than one goon? Is this just to KO our way through Edmonton?
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I'm not really surprised by any of the cuts. Gillies still being around is interesting though, I wonder if he has a legitimate shot at beating out Lack for backup.

The most disappointing cut is Wotherspoon. He has been given so many opportunities but just can't get over the hump. I'm guessing this will be his last season in the organisation.
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