[News] Agent, NHL unable to contact Mike Ribeiro

[-TC-]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

He's a dad. And he has allowed himself to go down this path. Wake the eff up.

clearly you know nothing about substance abuse

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

We really don't know if it's substance abuse. Could be a mental illness as well. Shouldn't jump to conclusions.

Yes we do (he has already done a stint in rehab)...though the cause of his addiction is unknown.

[BandwagonFan]

Originally Posted by Reaper

Your choice to judge is an obstacle to your understanding because judgement serves no purpose other than to draw a quick line between right & wrong, good & bad, moral & immoral, etc. In cases of addiction this ends up being a case of "who is to blame for this mess" when the issue is more complex than blame alone. Assigning blame is one of those things humans love to do that does nothing to solve the problem. We love to judge people and place them in little convenient mental categories so we can rate ourselves as to how we compare to them. For addicts, judgement, blame, and stigma are additional obstacles to be overcome and make it harder to recover. Most addicts have trouble being honest with themselves and their families. When they consider the blame and stigma it becomes more likely that they justify their decision to keep themselves hidden and avoid treatment. The addict usually already knows they have messed up; shame can be a big driver in continuing addiction.

At no time did I say there was a contradiction between saying people need help but should also accept responsibility for their behaviour.

This is the most truth I've ever read on CP, but now back to lurking on topic threads...

[NuclearFart]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Ugh...why do they always, always, always end up in Florida. It's like a Mecca for ####heads.

#floridaman

[drewtastic]

Originally Posted by NuclearFart

#floridaman

Par example:

https://twitter.com/_floridaman/stat...16276899192832

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by drewtastic

Par example:

https://twitter.com/_floridaman/stat...16276899192832

Ya know, this all could have been avoided if AT&T workers were equipped with guns of their own.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Ugh...why do they always, always, always end up in Florida. It's like a Mecca for ####heads.

because in Florida, you can get coke with your pancakes at the local IHOP

[カナダ人です]

He put together a great career though; nearly 1100 games and 800 points. Kinda surprised to see he was so effective for so long.

[Brick]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

Ya know, this all could have been avoided if AT&T workers were equipped with guns of their own.

Surprised they weren't. Doesn't everyone carry a gun in the US?

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by -TC-

clearly you know nothing about substance abuse

Ok. Can you enlighten me? When does it start? I ask because if you have people depending on you, i find it tough to understand how you can't catch yourself in early stages.

EDIT: I'm not chirping you either. I'm curious....i get the usual story that it starts small, but when you have people depending on you, then its hard to see other than someone with mental illness that should have been noticed/treated.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Ugh...why do they always, always, always end up in Florida. It's like a Mecca for ####heads.

Rehab is big business in Florida. They do tons issues to get addicts down there and then there is lots of talk about the rehab places basically trying to get people to relapse so they can get more insurance money out of them.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...824-story.html

But lately, South Florida has become the focal point of rampant insurance fraud that relies on a lethal cycle of intentional failure, authorities say.

“The incentive is to keep them in this relapse system, this gravy train that doesn’t end until the person leaves in a body bag or an ambulance,” said Aronberg, whose opioid task force has made more than 30 fraud arrests. “There’s no money in sobriety.”

There's an article on the Athletic about Ken Daniels (Red Wings announcer) and his son.

https://theathletic.com/154171/2017/...datory-rehabs/

Palm Beach County, where Jamie went to get treatment, is ground zero for a crisis called “patient brokering.” And young, unsuspecting addicts from the Midwest are often a prime target.
Criminals lure those with strong insurance coverage into their treatment homes in order to run up excessive charges to insurance companies with the ultimate goal of another relapse, to reset the entire process and extend the money-making cycle. The consistent payoff is in the relapse, not the recovery.
It’s called the Florida Shuffle.
“In a predatory model, what is driving this isn’t patient care and outcomes,” said John Lehman, chairman of the Florida Association of Recovery Residences. “This is a revenue source. The insurance card in the wallet of the kid is going to be milked for every penny it’s worth.”

[Cali Panthers Fan]

^Thank you Pete Moss. I honestly wasn't aware it was a problem. Not surprised that Florida physicians would do that mind you, but I just wasn't aware.