06-08-2017, 08:59 AM
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#41
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Treliving confirms that Rafikov is a defected player and will retain his rights in perpetuity
In negotiaions with Ollas Mattsson, would like him to continue to play in NA.
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06-08-2017, 09:07 AM
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#42
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I believe in the Jays.
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
Treliving confirms that Rafikov is a defected player and will retain his rights in perpetuity
In negotiaions with Ollas Mattsson, would like him to continue to play in NA.
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Well... until he's (Rafikov) 27. Happy to hear about Ollas Mattsson, he was really good value in the 6th round I feel.
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06-08-2017, 09:09 AM
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#43
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something else haha
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Originally Posted by Lil Pedro
Anyone else get the feeling that Tre wants to bring back both Elliott and Johnson?
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I didn't get that impression at all. He really emphasized that if they do bring him back they lose an asset (3rd).
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06-08-2017, 09:16 AM
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#44
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Franchise Player
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Man I'd love to see Ollas-Mattsson signed and then have him improve his skating.
6'5" 220lbs + defensive Dman would be a great find in the 6th round.
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06-08-2017, 09:18 AM
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#45
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Parallex
Well... until he's (Rafikov) 27. \
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There are different rules for defected players.
http://nypost.com/2008/11/04/nhl-uni...int-with-nlrb/
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The NHLPA filed an unfair labor practice charge against the NHL with the National Labor Relations Board in New York today, The Post has learned.
The action by the Players’ Association immediately followed notification that the union had lost its grievance against the NHL regarding “defected player status” for drafted and unsigned Europeans.
The league’s victory in that grievance as awarded by arbiter Richard Bloch, essentially gives teams the rights to these players into perpetuity for as long as there is no IIHF transfer agreement between the NHL and international hockey federations.
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06-08-2017, 09:22 AM
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#46
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Treliving is very good at the PR side of his job.
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06-08-2017, 09:31 AM
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#47
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by GranteedEV
"we'll get a contract done with (Ferland), if nothing else arbitration finishes it"
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Hopefully that kills the rumors that Ferklund is going to either be moved or exposed "(HF garbage)
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06-08-2017, 09:37 AM
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#48
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Treliving was pretty high on Ferland, saying that he feels like he's "only skimming the surface." Also said that he views him as a high skill player.
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06-08-2017, 10:07 AM
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#49
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
Treliving is very good at the PR side of his job.
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Its a process.
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06-08-2017, 11:05 AM
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#50
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Uranus
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kukkudo
Well he can bring them back, but if they fail and the Flames miss the playoffs I see a new GM in 2018-2019. So I don't know why risk it, bring one of them back but not both.
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He better resolve this ongoing goaltender carousel soon as it could be something that ultimately upends what has been an otherwise highly successful tenure-ship thus far.
At some point you need to find a solution for a team that is approaching its window of opportunity.
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06-08-2017, 11:28 AM
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#52
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First Line Centre
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So Mark Jankowski is pegged for the NHL pending he doesn't lose it at camp.
So that makes either Bouma and Stajan disposable
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06-08-2017, 11:28 AM
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#53
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: In the 'Dome
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Treliving really needs to figure out the goaltending.
I am hoping he can pull off a blockbuster somehow. Schneider/Price to put the goalie carousel to rest for good.
I am just tired of these "band-aid" fixes every summer. Getting a legit No.1 would make me very excited for next season.
If the Flames had a Murray, Rinne, Anderson, or Talbot it's entirely possible they're playing in the finals this year.
Goaltending has to be solved properly this summer.
2017 1st, Gillies, Kylington for Schneider?
2017 1st, Gillies, Bennett for a signed Carey Price?
Too much, too little?
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06-08-2017, 11:33 AM
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#54
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bar-Down
Treliving really needs to figure out the goaltending.
I am hoping he can pull off a blockbuster somehow. Schneider/Price to put the goalie carousel to rest for good.
I am just tired of these "band-aid" fixes every summer. Getting a legit No.1 would make me very excited for next season.
If the Flames had a Murray, Rinne, Anderson, or Talbot it's entirely possible they're playing in the finals this year.
Goaltending has to be solved properly this summer.
2017 1st, Gillies, Kylington for Schneider?
2017 1st, Gillies, Bennett for a signed Carey Price?
Too much, too little?
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Considering he went for a 1st in his prime, I have a hard time believing he would go for substantially more at 31 yrs older after a down season. He maybe gets the 1st but adding in Gilles and Kylington seem like a big over payment.
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06-08-2017, 11:33 AM
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#55
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bar-Down
Treliving really needs to figure out the goaltending.
I am hoping he can pull off a blockbuster somehow. Schneider/Price to put the goalie carousel to rest for good.
I am just tired of these "band-aid" fixes every summer. Getting a legit No.1 would make me very excited for next season.
If the Flames had a Murray, Rinne, Anderson, or Talbot it's entirely possible they're playing in the finals this year.
Goaltending has to be solved properly this summer.
2017 1st, Gillies, Kylington for Schneider?
2017 1st, Gillies, Bennett for a signed Carey Price?
Too much, too little?
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That is too much.
I really want these playoffs to be over, so we can get to the exciting stuff.
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06-08-2017, 11:35 AM
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#56
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: In the 'Dome
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkGio
So Mark Jankowski is pegged for the NHL pending he doesn't lose it at camp.
So that makes either Bouma and Stajan disposable
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Somehow getting rid of all 3 of Bouma, Stajan and Brouwer would be ideal.
Gaudreau - Monahan - Justin Williams (2 years @ 3mill per)
Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik
Versteeg - Bennett - Ferland
Lazar - Jankowski - Chiasson
F.Hamilton/Hathaway
Gio - Hamilton
Brodie - Stone
Alzner - Andersson
Wotherspoon
Schneider
Johnson
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06-08-2017, 11:36 AM
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#57
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Could Care Less
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Love his views on Ferland
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06-08-2017, 11:38 AM
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#58
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bar-Down
Somehow getting rid of all 3 of Bouma, Stajan and Brouwer would be ideal.
Gaudreau - Monahan - Justin Williams (2 years @ 3mill per)
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So… Get rid of Brouwer, because signing 30-something wingers to UFA deals doesn't work out, and then sign Williams because…?
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06-08-2017, 11:39 AM
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#59
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: In the 'Dome
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RyZ
Considering he went for a 1st in his prime, I have a hard time believing he would go for substantially more at 31 yrs older after a down season. He maybe gets the 1st but adding in Gillies and Kylington seem like a big over payment.
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Fair enough. Maybe just a 1st and one of those prospects?
I just get the sense that NJ doesn't really want to move him so it might take a pretty enticing offer.
He was moved for the 9th overall in a stronger draft when he was younger.
2017 16th overall + Jon Gillies for Schneider might be closer value. It would suck to lose Gillies but you have to give to get I suppose.
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06-08-2017, 11:41 AM
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#60
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bar-Down
Treliving really needs to figure out the goaltending.
I am hoping he can pull off a blockbuster somehow. Schneider/Price to put the goalie carousel to rest for good.
I am just tired of these "band-aid" fixes every summer. Getting a legit No.1 would make me very excited for next season.
If the Flames had a Murray, Rinne, Anderson, or Talbot it's entirely possible they're playing in the finals this year.
Goaltending has to be solved properly this summer.
2017 1st, Gillies, Kylington for Schneider?
2017 1st, Gillies, Bennett for a signed Carey Price?
Too much, too little?
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It's so hard to trade for an elite goalie. You either draft one (in what position doesn't seem to matter), like Price or Rinne, or trade for a promising backup, and hope they pan out, like Kipper. Even a move like Talbot works out only some of the time. Roman Turek was the highest touted backup in the NHL when the Flames got him.
Bishop is the only top goalie I can recall getting moved in recent history. Miller and Luongo were moved but quite a few years after being a Vezina candidate.
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