French Paris Elections

[Itse]

Originally Posted by Fozzie_DeBear

These shenanigans have been pulled on other countries by Russia as well...no reason to think that Canada's election will be any different.

Do you have a sufficiently hard right party they would support? I doubt they're doing it for the LOLs.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I wouldn't be surprised if a certain right wing party in Canada has already solicited help.

really?

[Matata]

How does Russia benefit from promoting nationalist right wing governments in the west?

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Matata

How does Russia benefit from promoting nationalist right wing governments in the west?

Because a lot of right wing politics in Europe are anti EU so it weakens the alliance as a whole.

[CampbellsTransgressions]

Originally Posted by Matata

How does Russia benefit from promoting nationalist right wing governments in the west?

Their goal is to breakup the EU and NATO as well as to strengthen American appetite for isolationism.

Russia has never stopped being expansionist and is only limited by the existing power structures which currently prevent it from invading Poland and friends.

[FlameOn]

Originally Posted by CampbellsTransgressions

Their goal is to breakup the EU and NATO as well as to strengthen American appetite for isolationism.

Russia has never stopped being expansionist and is only limited by the existing power structures which currently prevent it from invading Poland and friends.

The whole thing is Putin doesn't want Russia to move away from being a back water and corrupt he'll hole that he controls. To make sure that he can maintain power, he needs to break up alliances that have the potential to bring him down.

Installing other nutjob ultra nationalist regimes into competitor countries brings everyone down to Russia's level and causes enough distraction in those countries populace that Russia stops becoming a focus. Democratic, anti corruption uprisings in Ukraine that toppled Yanukovich scared Putin so badly that he did not want the same thing happening in Russia and triggering an investigation on his vast illicit wealth.

[Itse]

Originally Posted by Matata

How does Russia benefit from promoting nationalist right wing governments in the west?

They're promoting governments that are ideologically similar to them. Just like they've always done. Only thing that's changed is the ideology.

The conservative right is also quite pro-Russian these days, or at least less anti-Russian than others.
See: Trump, Donald.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Sounds like Macron is going to win quite easily by most accounts. Something like 65-35.

Good.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Le Pen just conceded, so yeah, probably a safe bet.

[nik-]

Pretty scary still. Their vote support almost doubled since 2012 and tripled since 2007. Granted 2007 was still her old man who was considerably less "polished".

[calgarygeologist]

Looks like Le Pen got destroyed with only about 1/3 of the votes. I thought it might be a bit closer. This should be a good result for the strength and stability of the EU.

[FurnaceFace]

There is that sort of groundswell going on everywhere signalling a desire for change. While Macron is not a wing nut radical, his is a new party and a vote for change or difference from the establishment too.

[oldschoolcalgary]

its an interesting result though... of course I am pleased that a fascist party didn't win... but the voter breakdown is interesting...

its seems, upon a high level view, that these populist movements are more rural in nature...Brexit, Le Pen, Trump (to a lesser degree) had their base of support in the small towns, rural communities.

that divide between rural and urban, conservative and liberal is becoming more pronounced, not less over time.

With the continued movement to urban populations centers, i wonder if there will eventually be a redrawing of districts? The gerrymandering of congressional districts is pretty much out of control in the US and the balance of power at the states level is skewed as a consequence.

[DuffMan]

France, not that, not that bright.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by nik-

Pretty scary still. Their vote support almost doubled since 2012 and tripled since 2007. Granted 2007 was still her old man who was considerably less "polished".

Only because of a significant shift to the center. It's not the same party as her father's as she's been more center right than he was

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Itse

Do you have a sufficiently hard right party they would support? I doubt they're doing it for the LOLs.

It's all relative.

[Snuffleupagus]

Funny as it sounds Macron's leadership will probably be closer to Trump than Le Pen would have been. It was most likely a lose-lose situation for the French people, much like the American election was.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Factoring in abstentions and spoiled ballots, Le Pen actually finished third, but either way lost by about 2:1. Sadly her best chance to stay relevant and grow her support is rooting for more attacks in France.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Funny as it sounds Macron's leadership will probably be closer to Trump than Le Pen would have been. It was most likely a lose-lose situation for the French people, much like the American election was.

How like Trump? Pro EU, pro immigration, not a moron, doesn't tweet nonsense, doesn't actively engage in conspiracy theories...

I'm very confused what you mean

[CaptainCrunch]

Its a good result, but I still have concerns that the radical party still managed to garner about a third of the votes. They're effectively blocked right now from policy, but this certainly gives then a narrative that their side is growing and gives them a larger more well funded bully pulpit.