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Stay Golden · 04-16-2017, 02:02 PM

Successful is reaching the playoffs. So yes but the first half of the season was garbage. GG made a real mess of the team he made them into a joke but the second half was nothing short of astounding.

If a rating was asked I would say 6/10. Because the first half was a 3/10 and second was a 9/10.

flamesforcup · 04-16-2017, 02:05 PM

If we lose in 5 or less i would deem it not a success or failure but dissapointment just for the fact that our 2 best players Brodie and Gaudreau had bad years and no progession with Bennett. However if we make it past Anaheim yes its a success.

Resolute 14 · 04-16-2017, 02:07 PM

Define "success".

There was no reason why this team should not have made the playoffs, so in that respect, getting there is a success. But that's not a high hurdle. We'll see if this team can save itself from the failure that was the first two games of this series.

DiracSpike · 04-16-2017, 02:07 PM

I think so, anytime you make the playoffs you have to be happy with that. Team will be a lot fresher next year after jettisoning wideman and possibly Brouwer/Bouma with Monahan and Gaudreau entering their primes.

Above all I have trust in BT to idenitify value to add to the team and as we've seen in the past, not be too proud to admit and fix mistakes.

TheIronMaiden · 04-16-2017, 02:08 PM

My expectation for the Flames this season was to be entertained. The Flames have succeeded in that. Which is nice because last season was not entertaining at all.

Hell, the last two games were exciting to watch down to the last second. Frustrating but still exciting. If the Flames sneak out a couple more wins I will consider the season a success. Especially because before November I thought the season would be no fun by January.

I'm not going to take watching my favourite team in the playoffs for granted.

Manhattanboy · 04-16-2017, 02:19 PM

Oh FFS.

After posting several thoughts late into the night in a fit of rage and anger reeling against NHL officiating, curses, lack of discipline and blown opportunities, I log on today to see a new thread that has all the hallmarks of that's it, all is lost, season is done.

The Flames have played game 2 of a possible 7 game series. ANA still has to win two more. They haven't played a home game yet.

Why now? This thread should be closed until the end of the season.

Erick Estrada · 04-16-2017, 02:27 PM

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I don't know the stats off hand but is that really true that a lot of seasons 94 points wouldn't be good enough to make the playoffs? I thought no team had ever missed with 96 points, so therefore you'd think 94 would get you in most seasons, no?

I believe Brent Sutter's Flames missed the playoffs in 2011 with a 94 point season. 94 points wasn't good enough to make the playoffs in the East this season.

Erick Estrada · 04-16-2017, 02:28 PM

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Oh for God sakes.

After posting several thoughts late into the night in a fit of rage and anger reeling against NHL officiating, curses, lack of discipline and blown opportunities, I log on today to see a new thread that has all the hallmarks of that's it, all is lost, season is done.

FFS the Flames have played game 2 of a possible 7 game series. ANA still has to win two more.

This thread should be closed until the end of the season. We should be talking about what has to be done to take this series. Not whether the year has been a success.

Why are you so mad?

Manhattanboy · 04-16-2017, 02:33 PM

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Why are you so mad?

Haha, just venting. So upset we didn't get the split we needed in SoCal.

calgaryred · 04-16-2017, 02:35 PM

So far yes we got to the playoffs and they are getting better through facing adversity and mistakes. Just hope for the playoffs and onwards they are fast learners.

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Erick Estrada · 04-16-2017, 02:37 PM

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Haha, just venting. So upset we didn't get the split we needed in SoCal.

They have to win two in Calgary. This Ducks team is not a playoff juggernaut. They have to slay their own playoff demons and the Flames have made it easy on them. The Ducks in the playoffs don't handle adversity well and it's on the Flames to win some games here and put the seeds of doubt in their minds. It's a beatable opponent in the playoffs but the Flames need to stop beating themselves before they can beat the Ducks.

Macho0978 · 04-16-2017, 02:44 PM

This series has been very frustrating. But bonehead penalties and plays are part of being young. No question this team has kept up with a still very deep good Ducks team. In 2015 the size of the Ducks was way too much for the Flames and the series was very lopsided. This series has been a lot closer and really we are a bad 5 on 3, a bad change and a terrible bounce away from going to OT both games and potentially winning a game or 2 in Anaheim. Definitely seen an improvement from last time we made the playoffs

TheScorpion · 04-16-2017, 02:53 PM

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That's not the point. I'm asking if the season is already a success... and if not, what needs to happen for it to be so.

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

That is not what the thread title, or the OP asks though.

The OP elaborates on the title, and it actually says it exactly:

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Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Do you already consider this season to be a successful one for the Flames, or do they need to do more for you to consider it to be so?

Toonage · 04-16-2017, 02:56 PM

Also worth noting, the season is over. Ended on April 8th. It's a fair question and one that could help instill some positivity

tvp2003 · 04-16-2017, 02:56 PM

I was going to post this exact topic at the end of the regular season but thought it would be better to hold off. But since the question is being asked: I thought the season was a success regardless of what happened in the playoffs. The upward trajectory this team has been on since the all-star break is nothing short of remarkable. More importantly, it is sustainable. As long as we continue to get consistent goaltending, many of the other pieces are already in place, and should get better. Making the playoffs (and any post-season success) is just gravy.

Classic_Sniper · 04-16-2017, 02:58 PM

From how bleak the season looked at the start of the year, I would conclude it's been a success. But losing to this hated Ducks team in 4 or 5 would be a gigantic punch to the gut and it would probably leave a sour taste in the mouths of what was a pretty incredible second half performance.

Manhattanboy · 04-16-2017, 03:06 PM

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From how bleak the season looked at the start of the year, I would conclude it's been a success. But losing to this hated Ducks team in 4 or 5 would be a gigantic punch to the gut and it would probably leave a sour taste in the mouths of what was a pretty incredible second half performance.

Fore sure, and given that the Flames shot themselves in Games 1 and 2. Ducks, with their injured defence, have been pretty underwhelming so far.

OldDutch · 04-16-2017, 03:33 PM

People forget that we had downright awful goaltending for a good portion of the season. Even then we still ended up with similar ROW as every western team except CHI and MIN.

The problem is inconsistent play. When this team is on it is one of the best in the west. You don't win 10 games in a row by accident. Problem is they follow that up with medicore play. It gives people the impression they are pretending.

Their a good young team trending up. If they get goaltending season long they are winning the Pacific. It's not far fetched.

Young teams like this make mistakes. They'll mature. Will they win a cup? Who knows, but to read the typical "these guys suck and are disappointing" is brutal. They'll get better. They have too many good pieces not to.

They have a consistency problem, not a talent problem due to youth. What a great problem to have.

Roof-Daddy · 04-16-2017, 03:34 PM

Yes it's been a good season. Hopefully they can turn this series around and prolong it, but even if they don't they took a big step forward in my eyes.

Key is that they need to build off of it next season though.

Winsor_Pilates · 04-16-2017, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TheScorpion

That's not the point. I'm asking if the season is already a success... and if not, what needs to happen for it to be so.

Perhaps you should put "regular" season in the thread title.

Otherwise it sure seems you're asking the question opportunistically after 2 playoff losses when everyone on these threads is frustrated and will lead the answers in a certain direction.