02-17-2017, 03:48 PM
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Seeing all these people prefer to play Jokipakka to Wideman, really has me questioning the collective intelligence of the board. Jokipakka has been just as bad, if not worse while playing fewer minutes against lesser competition than Wideman.
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02-17-2017, 03:54 PM
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#42
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef
Seeing all these people prefer to play Jokipakka to Wideman, really has me questioning the collective intelligence of the board. Jokipakka has been just as bad, if not worse while playing fewer minutes against lesser competition than Wideman.
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Man, if only everyone was as smart as you  However, if the board continues to make you question, you are going to delete your account right... probably not worth it to stay?
Learn to respect people and their opinions.
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02-17-2017, 04:07 PM
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#43
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Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: San Francisco
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Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef
Seeing all these people prefer to play Jokipakka to Wideman, really has me questioning the collective intelligence of the board. Jokipakka has been just as bad, if not worse while playing fewer minutes against lesser competition than Wideman.
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Agree with your Joki assessment but I think questioning the inttelect of the people here is a bit extreme.
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02-17-2017, 04:12 PM
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#44
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I believe in the Jays.
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
Pat Steinberg @Fan960Steinberg
#Flames lines today:
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik;
Gaudreau-Monahan-Versteeg;
Ferland-Bennett-Brouwer;
Bouma-Stajan-Hamilton
Pat Steinberg @Fan960Steinberg
Alex Chiasson is a notable odd man out as the team runs through forward lines. Hathaway the other extra forward. #Flames
Pat Steinberg @Fan960Steinberg
Bartkowski skating on the third pairing with Wideman today. Sure does look like he’ll be in tomorrow. #Flames
Kristen Odland @Kristen_Odland
Jokipakka is rotating in the pairings which suggests that Bartkowski plays on Saturday vs. the Canucks, his old team.
Pat Steinberg @Fan960Steinberg
#Flames D pairings today:
Giordano-Hamilton;
Brodie-Engelland;
Bartkowski-Wideman.
Jokipakka extra.
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If it holds up this is probably the most optimal line-up the Flames have put up all season... please please please don't be unlucky on Saturday.
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02-17-2017, 05:04 PM
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#45
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Originally Posted by Parallex
If it holds up this is probably the most optimal line-up the Flames have put up all season... please please please don't be unlucky on Saturday.
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Forwards, yes, but that bottom D pairing really has me concerned. And of course, if our goalie actually plays the way he can.
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02-17-2017, 05:55 PM
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jul 2011
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Agree 100% with taking Chiasson out of the line-up. It is too bad that it took Gully 60 games to figure out what most fans and season ticket holders have known for at least 40 games. Chiasson really hurt the Gaudreau, Bennett line when he was on it and should never have played one game above the 4th line. Hathaway and Bouma much better even on line 4. Finally after 60 games Widedog is demoted to 3rd pairing, but should never play another game for Calgary. F. Hamilton and Chiasson should be sent down to farm and Jankowski brought up. He could alternate with Stajan on line 4 or play center on Bennett line.
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02-17-2017, 06:02 PM
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#47
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Originally Posted by Strange Brew
How would that work since he's UFA?
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It would only be a cap dump from the trade deadline onward. The Flames would take a guy that has an NMC/NTC or whatever from a team that would otherwise have to expose someone they don't want to (Fleury situation in Pittsburgh, for example). Wideman wouldn't be a core piece of the deal, most likely, just a side benefit of helping another team out of an expansion bind.
Don't think it is likely to happen, though.
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02-17-2017, 06:05 PM
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#48
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^^ Not sure if I would make all of those changes, but I do agree that GG has been far too slow to make adjustments that are seemingly obvious.
Even if they make the playoffs, that stubbornness (starting Grossmann at all was a huge red flag) and failure to have the team ready to start the season are enough to sink him, in my books
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02-17-2017, 06:06 PM
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#49
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Rather telling the Flames can sign a guy who was on an AHL contract and he immediately steps into the starting lineup. And it's not due to injuries.
My fingers are crossed.
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02-17-2017, 06:56 PM
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#50
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Kelowna
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Originally Posted by Machiavelli
^^ Not sure if I would make all of those changes, but I do agree that GG has been far too slow to make adjustments that are seemingly obvious.
Even if they make the playoffs, that stubbornness (starting Grossmann at all was a huge red flag) and failure to have the team ready to start the season are enough to sink him, in my books
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Do you think he started Grossman because he thought highly of him or because the GM just signed him and may have suggested he play? Not defending Glue Gun, I don't think he's a great coach but maybe his hand was forced.
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02-17-2017, 07:00 PM
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#51
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
For all the hate Jokipakka gets, he's absolutely superior to the Widedog.
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Superior? You're the only one who seems to like Jokipakka. Because of of his name for some strange reason.
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02-17-2017, 07:00 PM
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#52
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Zulu29
Do you think he started Grossman because he thought highly of him or because the GM just signed him and may have suggested he play? Not defending Glue Gun, I don't think he's a great coach but maybe his hand was forced.
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That awful player might have single-handedly cost the Flames a couple of games. He was hurting the team and I guess I don't care if anything was suggested from above. Using him was stupid.
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02-17-2017, 07:00 PM
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RANDOM USER TITLE CHANGE
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: South Calgary
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Originally Posted by Zulu29
Do you think he started Grossman because he thought highly of him or because the GM just signed him and may have suggested he play? Not defending Glue Gun, I don't think he's a great coach but maybe his hand was forced.
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Yes. He coached the player before. Treliving did it for the additional cap space (which wasn't used anyway)
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02-17-2017, 07:00 PM
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#54
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I believe in the Jays.
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Originally Posted by jaikorven
Forwards, yes, but that bottom D pairing really has me concerned.
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When has it not? Wideman not in the top 4 automatically makes it the best alignment we've had this far.
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02-17-2017, 07:03 PM
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#55
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Bartkowski-Wideman.
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Gulutzan Canucks double agent confirmed.
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02-17-2017, 09:27 PM
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jul 2011
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Jokipaaka, Wotherspoon, and Kulak all better than Wideman now and with another 20 games under their belt much better. This is the best lineup this year, because Wideman on the 3rd line, and Chiasson not playing. Only question mark is Hamilton (much prefer Hathaway), and would prefer Kulak in lineup to Wideman. Agree with trying new guy, but sorry we had to sacrifice Kulak to minors. Our coaches do not have the intestinal fortitude to bench Wideman no matter how many mistakes he makes.
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02-17-2017, 09:28 PM
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#57
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by keenan87
Man, if only everyone was as smart as you However, if the board continues to make you question, you are going to delete your account right... probably not worth it to stay?
Learn to respect people and their opinions. |
I don't respect stupidity, that will never change and the way a large portion of this board reacts to Wideman, is very stupid. Generally the reaction to any whipping boy is absolute stupidity.
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