Get Chiasson OFF the Gaudreau line!

[doublebass]

Gaudreau-Monahan-Versteeg
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Ferland-Bennett-Brouwer
Bouma-Stajan-Chiasson

Hamilton-Hathaway

[442scotty]

Johnny needs someone who can bring the puck into the offensive zone with skill then be able to give and go with Johnny once in the zone. All the teams have to do right now is focus on Gaudreau alone and they neutralize the line

[CaptainCrunch]

ok, maybe I'm off. But I really haven't liked Johnny's game without the puck lately, it just seems so low energy. He's not attacking the game like he usually does.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Not to rain on the nostalgia, again, but Chiasson does have more goals and more assists than Iginla.

That there are people who wouldn't take present day Iginla over Alex Chiasson truly astonishes me.

Colorado is a tire fire. Their coach quit two weeks before camp. In what is likely his last NHL season, Iginla is faced with the prospect of playing out the string in November.

Johnny needs someone to cash in his chances. Go to open areas, finish with a quick release. I don't know for a fact that Iggy on the right side reduces the slashes Gaudreau takes, but I'm willing to gamble his presence is a net positive.

Get the Avs to retain salary. Maybe they even want Bouma.

Jarome is very likely the cheapest RW fix available. So do it. It's only going to be for a few months anyway, and I think if they reacquire Iginla, they make the playoffs. For both real and intangible reasons.

[Bourque's Twin]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Not to rain on the nostalgia, again, but Chiasson does have more goals and more assists than Iginla.

Versteeg has as many goals and more assists than Landeskog. I don't think this year's Avs team is a good indication of individual capabilities.

[monkeyman]

I'm of the opinion that Johnny needs to learn to work through and return some of the slashes, hacks and hits if he wants to remain being an impactful part of any team. The best way to do that is to play him with guys like Chiasson, Hathaway, Stajan. Attitude is sometimes a reflection of surroundings...
I loved seeing him crosschecking Smith the other night, he needs to do more of that. Plus, he can make ok players look good (e.g. Jooris). spreads out the skill.

[GoJetsGo]

I'm liking the Iggy idea more and more as a gamble to run out this season.

We're not strong contenders anway, and it's definitely low risk / high reward.

The chance that the sentiment of being back home rekindles Iggy into scoring some big goals for us and keeping the power play hot seems like it's worth a shot.

As I mentioned, I don't hate Chiasson but he is David Moss incarnate as far as I'm concerned. Big guy, decent shot but not the best hands or sense. Doesn't add chemistry to any line, just stands tall down low and can get a shot off if he's in the right place.

Iggy can still snipe, and even the chance he'd be lifted up by returning here and playing with motivated hungry young players (away from that tire fire in Colorado) seems like it's worth a shot in the dark.

[FBI]

Agreed about Johnny returning the crosschecks. That was awesome (even though he got the wrong guy) I would like to see him do that WAY more often. He has a grand total of 0 penalty minutes so step up the aggression and retaliation.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

I'm liking the Iggy idea more and more as a gamble to run out this season.

We're not strong contenders anway, and it's definitely low risk / high reward.

The chance that the sentiment of being back home rekindles Iggy into scoring some big goals for us and keeping the power play hot seems like it's worth a shot.

As I mentioned, I don't hate Chiasson but he is David Moss incarnate as far as I'm concerned. Big guy, decent shot but not the best hands or sense. Doesn't add chemistry to any line, just stands tall down low and can get a shot off if he's in the right place.

Iggy can still snipe, and even the chance he'd be lifted up by returning here and playing with motivated hungry young players (away from that tire fire in Colorado) seems like it's worth a shot in the dark.

Even pro-rated, Iggy costs too much. And not just from a philosophical point of view, from a "can't fit him under the cap" point of view. And can he still snipe on a regular basis? He had a great shot against the Flames, but not in motion, and from the middle of the high slot, not from his RW position.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Even pro-rated, Iggy costs too much. And not just from a philosophical point of view, from a "can't fit him under the cap" point of view. And can he still snipe on a regular basis? He had a great shot against the Flames, but not in motion, and from the middle of the high slot, not from his RW position.

Colorado retains 50%. We send Bouma. Problem solved.

[GoJetsGo]

Yes, Colorado could retain, as would be in line with it being a low risk, low acquisition move.

Come out and say you're not for it, no problem. No need to make things up to try and present it as not possible.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Colorado retains 50%. We send Bouma. Problem solved.

Why would Colorado do that?

[EldrickOnIce]

Yeah - salary problem solved, if Avs bite - and why would they?
Just pretty sure it doesn't solve the RW problem.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Why would Colorado do that?

Stay with us here... we're presuming it's part of a trade, meaning something is going their way to do so. Iggy's contract is up at the end of this season. Not out of the realm of possibility they retain salary for a couple months.

[Toonage]

Colorado isn't taking on $2.2M for next year just to move an expiring deal. Unless they just have to have another Flame on the roster.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by monkeyman

I'm of the opinion that Johnny needs to learn to work through and return some of the slashes, hacks and hits if he wants to remain being an impactful part of any team. The best way to do that is to play him with guys like Chiasson, Hathaway, Stajan. Attitude is sometimes a reflection of surroundings...
I loved seeing him crosschecking Smith the other night, he needs to do more of that. Plus, he can make ok players look good (e.g. Jooris). spreads out the skill.

I think that Johnny Hockey needs to go away for a while and he needs to adopt a new persona. Johnny Switchblade Action Punk.

Every time someone slashes him he pulls out a switchblade and threatens to cut them man.

Sure he might take a few penalties, a suspension or two and maybe even an aggravated assault charge, but at some point nobody would go within 5 feet of a crazy man with a switch blade in one hand and a hockey stick in the others.

And think of the merchandise.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Yeah - salary problem solved, if Avs bite - and why would they?
Just pretty sure it doesn't solve the RW problem.

I missed the part where anyone said it did.

There was discussion it would potentially help for the rest of this year, which is debatable.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

Stay with us here... we're presuming it's part of a trade, meaning something is going their way to do so. Iggy's contract is up at the end of this season. Not out of the realm of possibility they retain salary for a couple months.

Yes, but the proposal (Iggy + retained for Bouma) doesn't (a) save them money, (b) get them anything except one year of Bouma. So Calgary would have to give them something they think is good - picks or prospects. They can't take another roster player, because the swap leave them right at the cap. The swap still puts the Flames way over the cap - it's only Smid who saves the day.

So what pick or prospect do we add to get a couple months of present Iggy?

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

So what pick or prospect do we add to get a couple months of present Iggy?

I really don't know, I wouldn't waste much time speculating or being upset one poster mentioned Bouma.

I was merely pointing out that you seem against the idea to begin with (which is fine) and then seemed to write it off as being impossible because of the salary... which just isn't the case. There are many ways it could be logistically possible.

I also think it's quite possible a change of scenery could see him boosted substantially. We know he still has the shot, and as has already been pointed out, Colorado is so terrible and demoralizing their entire team (young stars included) have their stats suffering.


In my opinion he's a better stop-gap RW option than playing Chiasson over his head, and worth a shot if the acquisition cost is low.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Maybe I missed it, but what are actually giving Colorado to retain 50% of Iggy's salary and also to take Bouma's contract off our hands for next year? If that's the deal the cost going back to the Avs just got a whole lot steeper then it would be to take a struggling Iginla from them at the deadline straight up.