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Old 11-30-2016, 12:00 PM   #41
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Yeah, that's the first thing I think of when I hear "skates like a deer".

Was trying to find an agile deer vid. Found this instead.

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Old 11-30-2016, 12:02 PM   #42
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For those who want to listen, it's at the 43 minute mark.

http://www.tsn.ca/radio/toronto-1050...livan-1.620329
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I wonder what the GM who made a call is thinking now? If it comes out, does he think he would look good, in a sly fox way, by making a low-ball offer for a good player, or would he look bad by making an insulting offer to the hockey GM/agent circles?
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What's the over/under on when the Leafs media circus start camping out in front of Dougie Hamilton's parents' house?
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Love it. This is the most passion exhibited by anyone in the organization all season. Need more of it.
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I now want this to drag out longer, just so Burke outs this mystery GM.
My bet is it's Florida GM Tom Rowe.
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I wonder what the GM who made a call is thinking now? If it comes out, does he think he would look good, in a sly fox way, by making a low-ball offer for a good player, or would he look bad by making an insulting offer to the hockey GM/agent circles?
It's probably not in the best interest of any GM to insult another. The whole job is about building positive relationships. Winning a trade is great, but having a reputation as a snake oil salesman is not. It's a fine line, but in general, I think GMs try to be fair with each other as you are more likely to deal with them again in the future if you think they can be trusted. I swear there are even times that when it turns out that one GM fleeces another, you will sometimes see the 2 make another minor deal at some point to help the other guy save face.

It's a small world and they never know who is going to be working for whom in the future.
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It's probably not in the best interest of any GM to insult another. The whole job is about building positive relationships. Winning a trade is great, but having a reputation as a snake oil salesman is not. It's a fine line, but in general, I think GMs try to be fair with each other as you are more likely to deal with them again in the future if you think they can be trusted. I swear there are even times that when it turns out that one GM fleeces another, you will sometimes see the 2 make another minor deal at some point to help the other guy save face.

It's a small world and they never know who is going to be working for whom in the future.
True, but thats why Burke did this rather than Treliving, and he gave the GM the benefit of anonymity.

It was savage but discreet. I like it.
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It's a small world and they never know who is going to be working for whom in the future.
This is a big part of it.

Don Maloney now works for Treliving and Burke.
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Old 11-30-2016, 12:38 PM   #51
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I bet it's the young dork running Arizona.
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It probably was Chiarelli!
Why haven't more people come to this conclusion?

It, "ticks off a lot of boxes".

Dumb GM. Check.
Insulting offer (or maybe a GM just WAAAAAAY overvaluing his players. Check.
Team needs a top 4 D. Check.
Tried to get Hamilton previously. Check.
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Old 11-30-2016, 12:46 PM   #53
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Love the "insulting offer" part. Sets it straight to the other GMs that if they want to talk trade, they better have a serious offer. You should always hold your assets to the highest value, whether you believe in it or not.
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Old 11-30-2016, 12:59 PM   #54
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Here is Burke on Sportsnet 590:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/b...milton-rumour/

pretty much says the same things. calls the other gm an "idiot"

says they moved heaven and earth to beat out 12 other teams to get Hamilton from the Bruins and gave up 3 very high draft picks

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So Treliving told this other GM that the next time has an idea that stupid to save the quarter? Not likely.

But I will say that is the most effective squelching of a trade rumor I have heard in a long time which was the whole point.
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Yeah, that's the first thing I think of when I hear "skates like a deer".

It's posts like this that make CP my favourite sport related website visit.
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Old 11-30-2016, 01:08 PM   #57
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"He will remain nameless for now...but at some point probably going to identify him as the one idiot who made the one phone call."
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This is exactly why you have Brian Burke on the payroll.
He is the definition of a beauty.
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This is exactly why you have Brian Burke on the payroll.
He is the definition of a beauty.
Exactly. Our GM probably listened patiently and then politely declined, he then likely told Burke what happened and what the offer was and they both had a hearty chuckle about it.

And then someone went and flapped their gums creating problems at which point Burke was designated as the appropriate agent of swift retribution in the form of this rather pointed repartee.
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Oddly enough we discussed this very topic on our show last night, and our mutual response was the exact same as Burke's. If someone wants to be stupid and make you a ridiculous offer that is such a large overpayment that it's ridiculous, then sure you look at it. I mentioned something along the lines of Nylander, Connor Brown and Travis Dermott as an offer that would be ridiculous enough to meet the threshold of what you would need to go ahead with it and even then you probably still wouldn't. There are only a handful of players like Hamilton in the game. You want him, you're going to have to pay well more than market value, especially when he is only getting paid slightly more than Dennis Wideman and is a vastly superior player to Wideman (who himself is only slightly overpaid by about a million for what he brings) and he has further upside on top of that.
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