10-24-2016, 06:54 AM
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Location: Vancouver
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It's not so much the current record that made me lose hope, but more the point that they haven't looked good at all. Even the game that we won was sloppy defensively.
If we had a 1-4-1 record, when the team played well but just had bad luck, that would be one thing. But this team deserves that record.
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10-24-2016, 07:00 AM
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#42
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69%
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
Before you call me a pessimist or a downer, the Flames made me this way. Blame them.
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10-24-2016, 07:20 AM
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#43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codynw
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Odd choice. I personally think our chance of making the playoffs is approximately 420%
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10-24-2016, 07:30 AM
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#44
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: TEXAS!!
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I think 5% sounds about right.
People are giving examples of really good, established, contending teams who had bad stretches but still made the playoffs.
The Flames are none of those things. The Flames are much closer to the other 99% of cases, where a team goes on a losing streak because they suck, and they don't make the playoffs because they suck. For every "Anaheim started badly but made the playoffs", there's a hundred cases of bad teams on bad stretches who don't make the post-season.
In reality, I'm not saying the Flames have a 5% chance because of their record. It doesn't matter so much is a team goes 6 games without a regulation win. The Flames are going to miss because they're 6 games in, and haven't DESERVED a regulation win, and have not improved an inch during that span.
They are not a contender going through a patch of bad luck to go 1-fer-6. They are a team playing like garbage who is lucky to be 1-fer-6, and will likely be in a much worse situation 48 hours from now.
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10-24-2016, 07:46 AM
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Before the season started I would have said 60/40 for them making it.
Even at 1-4-1, if they'd looked decent but lost because of bad luck I'd stick with 60/40.
But the fact is the team looks awful - completely lost and frankly worse than they've looked in years.
At this point I wouldn't go any higher than 10%.
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10-24-2016, 07:51 AM
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#46
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#1 Goaltender
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Im assuming the 2017 draft is weak?
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10-24-2016, 07:58 AM
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#47
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kukkudo
Im assuming the 2017 draft is weak?
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After Nolan Patrick, there seems to be a big step down. But I think Patrick is the real deal, the problem is that you can finish dead last and easily lose the lottery due to the Oiler rules in place.
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10-24-2016, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
After Nolan Patrick, there seems to be a big step down. But I think Patrick is the real deal, the problem is that you can finish dead last and easily lose the lottery due to the Oiler rules in place.
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But I can see it happen Flames finish 30th and draft 2nd overall.
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10-24-2016, 08:09 AM
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#49
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Oilers and Canucks are on unsustainably good runs, Flames are on a bad run with potential to pick up dramatically. Bad puck luck and a disruptive preseason have the team lost. If they can get to a respectable record within a month, they can surge up the standings from there. If not, they end up somewhere in the lottery, hopefully using the season to position for a retool in the offseason once some bigger contracts are off the books
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10-24-2016, 08:47 AM
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#50
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The Flames will make it.
Just like our ol buddy Han did, when it looked like there was no hope.
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10-24-2016, 10:14 AM
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#51
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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2%
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10-24-2016, 10:14 AM
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#52
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Calgary
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10%.
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10-24-2016, 10:14 AM
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#53
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hockey.modern
Let's remember, in the first 6 six games last season, the Ducks went 1-4-1 as well and we all know how that went. Still lots of hockey to be played.
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The Ducks are outplaying teams but couldn't score. That certainly doesn't seem like the flames problem
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10-24-2016, 11:21 AM
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I still struggle to see/understand how the season can be "over" after 10 games.
Are we saying that no team can recover with 72 games remaining on their schedule?
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10-24-2016, 11:28 AM
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#55
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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It is way too early for this. I say 50%.
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10-24-2016, 11:37 AM
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#56
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I give them a 50% chance. They either will, or they won't.
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10-24-2016, 11:41 AM
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#57
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OmegaV4
I still struggle to see/understand how the season can be "over" after 10 games.
Are we saying that no team can recover with 72 games remaining on their schedule?
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Not every team, but in order to be in the top 16, the Flames need to play at a rate that typically a top 10 team would have to play at. And they would have to sustain that for 76 more games. It's one thing to be an elite team that starts off badly and then recovers, but the Flames were likely a bubble team to begin with.
They would basically need to go from horrible to elite immediately.
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10-24-2016, 11:43 AM
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#58
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Stuck in the 80s
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Stuck in Mootown
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They won't: 0%.
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10-24-2016, 11:44 AM
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#59
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: TEXAS!!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OmegaV4
I still struggle to see/understand how the season can be "over" after 10 games.
Are we saying that no team can recover with 72 games remaining on their schedule?
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Not at all. It is very possible for good teams to recover from a bad start, even a very long bad start.
Good teams do that all the time.
But the Flames are not a good team. They are not outplaying other good teams, and just having bad puck luck. They are getting exactly the results that they have earned.
And teams who are in a deep hole after 10 games because they deserve to be in a deep hole after 10 games? Teams who can play 2 months of hockey and never once look like the better team?
Yeah, those teams don't come back.
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10-24-2016, 11:48 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Lethbridge
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Pretty early to be making these predictions, but the results so far are not good.
As a ballpark guess, better than zero, and less than 50/50.
25%.
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