Nestle has no soul

[Fuzz]

Isn't Desan water just bottled straight from the Calgary city water?

CSB time.. I was in one of the deep south US states in 1996 and a pop machine had bottled water in it. On the button for it, it said "bottled in Calgary, Alberta".

[Matata]

Originally Posted by GGG

They are also the primary cause of drought in California. It's a management issue.

The 20 million litres from Nestle is basically.

Watering Lawns (which also contributes nothing) is a far bigger concern.

Nestle is clearly on a path of trying to privatize and control as much water as they can get away with, i would argue any amount of appeasement is unacceptable.

[metallicat]

Originally Posted by V

I won't trust the drinking water at a campsite to be any good. There's no way they flush enough water to keep the quality high.

Do you think you're some expert in water or something?

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by Inferno

I don't think you would get many from say Winnipeg making that claim. lol

Why do you say that? Winnipeg has great water; much better than Calgary's.

Or did you just look at the rivers and assume that's where Winnipeg's drinking water comes from?

[Kavvy]

I "think" it is prudent for everyone to have a flat of the cheapest bottle water around stashed in their basement, that you replace each year for emergency situations where the City can't get to your family for 3-4 days and water is cut off.

Or something, I don't know.

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Isn't Desan water just bottled straight from the Calgary city water?

CSB time.. I was in one of the deep south US states in 1996 and a pop machine had bottled water in it. On the button for it, it said "bottled in Calgary, Alberta".

Dasani is multi-stage filtered, mineralized municipal water.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Matata

Nestle is clearly on a path of trying to privatize
and control as much water as they can get away with, i would argue any amount of appeasement is unacceptable.

The government should be charging more for water and not sign away water rights long term. But that is not the companies fault. My general point is that Water is terribly managed by the government and the price it is sold for is woefully under the value of the water.

[Erick Estrada]

I think it's silly to use bottled water in your home or work but I don't mind it for traveling as I'm one of those people that doesn't drink pop or other beverages so outside of my daily Tim's DD it's strictly water and some places in the US have terrible water and then there's Mexico.

[BsFaninCGY]

Surprised at how many people here forget the 2013 flood. Or Flint, Michigan. Or Katrina.

Bottled water as a daily consumable = bad. Bottle water after a disaster = life saving. Necessary evil in my mind.

[greyshep]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Found this just now too. 8.5 gallons (almost 3x the amount of water 24 flat of 550 ml bottles) and pretty much the same dimensions as the flat. Complete with wheels and a smiley face!

LOL!! That looks a lot like a RV portable "honey bucket", not a drinking water carrier.

[Mazrim]

Originally Posted by BsFaninCGY

Surprised at how many people here forget the 2013 flood.

Ah yes, the 2013 flood. Hordes of people in Calgary buying as much bottled water as they could fit into their vehicles despite constant assurances that the tap water was safe to use. What a waste.

How does this justify people buying regular amounts of bottled water for their homes and daily life? It will always be available when necessary, but doesn't need to bought by the flat by the average consumer.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by GGG

They are also the primary cause of drought in California. It's a management issue.

The 20 million litres from Nestle is basically.

Watering Lawns (which also contributes nothing) is a far bigger concern.

Pretty sure it's because it's not raining in California that much anymore which is leading to a drought.

[CroFlames]

Don't blame Nestle, blame the state/provincial governments.

Nestle is still bottling water in California. California! Like wtf.

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by Reaper

Dasani is multi-stage filtered, mineralized municipal water.

I've had chats with people about this. Bottled water isn't just water.

Salt is listed as an ingredient in Dasani. I don't like its taste.

I believe Aquafina is a filtered water with ozone added. Some people think I am drinking plastic because ozone + PET is bad...
Smart water is filtered water with minerals added back.

Nestle and some of those PC/Costco flats are pretty much tap water from a small town in AB or BC in a bottle. I believe it is written on the label.

Fiji water is filtered spring water in a bottle.

Perrier and other carbonated waters are pretty much distilled/filtered water plus carbon dioxide plus a splash of flavor.

Culligan has options ranging from distilled to purified water I believe.


I how discovered how crappy cheap bottled water can get by accident once. If you leave Nestle/PC/Costco bottled water in a trunk and allow it to be exposed to hot/cold temperatures, after about 6-8 months, sediment will form (almost like sand). I keep water there in case it is needed for an emergency or I need a bottle to drink on a casual occasional day. I don't consume it regularly.

I now keep Aquafina in there because it's one of the few bottled waters that doesn't have minerals, which I hope means will not sediment or do weird things if left in there for a long time.

[BsFaninCGY]

Originally Posted by Mazrim

Ah yes, the 2013 flood. Hordes of people in Calgary buying as much bottled water as they could fit into their vehicles despite constant assurances that the tap water was safe to use. What a waste.

How does this justify people buying regular amounts of bottled water for their homes and daily life? It will always be available when necessary, but doesn't need to bought by the flat by the average consumer.

That's why I mentioned other events like Flint and NO - a local example so it's 'real', more severe examples to show what could happen. I said nothing about justifying daily use - the exact opposite in fact. However with no demand, eventually it's not worth producing. And that's when you don't have a supply easily shippable to area's in true need. Bottled water didn't exist mere decades ago. How would it be 'available when necessary' if it is no longer being produced?

[GGG]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Pretty sure it's because it's not raining in California that much anymore which is leading to a drought.

No, there ground water table as dropped significantly which has changed rain fall patterns in the region. In addition the regions ability to deal with drought is compromised when the easily accessible well water is gone.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by BsFaninCGY

That's why I mentioned other events like Flint and NO - a local example so it's 'real', more severe examples to show what could happen. I said nothing about justifying daily use - the exact opposite in fact. However with no demand, eventually it's not worth producing. And that's when you don't have a supply easily shippable to area's in true need. Bottled water didn't exist mere decades ago. How would it be 'available when necessary' if it is no longer being produced?

You can get a hollow fiber membrane filter for $20 which can take care of all your protozoa. Bacteria / virus can be killed with a low dose of chlorine and time.

You can treat your own water for most emergencies. Chemicals and Lead would still be an issue. Filling up your own 5 gallon jugs would be the solution from a preparedness standpoint. I would suspect the military maintains water treatment vehicles to filter water from a variety of sources.

Also tanker trucking water in and filling the aforementioned jugs is a better emergency response solution.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by GGG

No, there ground water table as dropped significantly which has changed rain fall patterns in the region. In addition the regions ability to deal with drought is compromised when the easily accessible well water is gone.

They're going through the worst 3 years regarding rainfall in the last 120 years. I'm sure that has something to do with it as well.

You said the main cause are farmers, which is just flat out wrong. The main cause of a drought anywhere is lack of rain.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

They're going through the worst 3 years regarding rainfall in the last 120 years. I'm sure that has something to do with it as well.

You said the main cause are farmers, which is just flat out wrong. The main cause of a drought anywhere is lack of rain.

How about there would be much lower consequence of having long severe droughts if the water system was appropriately managed instead of agriculture over use leading to significant aquifer decline in high water years.

In addition the lower aquifers have led to lower reservoir levels and spring flows which increases the amount of precipitation required to stave off drought conditions.

Therefore the primary cause of lack of water in the California area is over consumption and not a lack of rain as the hydrology in the area could have mitigated the consequences.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by greyshep

LOL!! That looks a lot like a RV portable "honey bucket", not a drinking water carrier.

Are you sure about that. That's a pretty small hole to sit on....

It's most definitely a water tank.