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Old 08-01-2016, 06:06 PM   #41
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Vermette is one of the best face-off guys in the league. Flames as a team are one of the worst. He had 17 goals and 38 points last year. Treliving should consider picking him up. Only problem is Flames will then need to move out some salary.
Why? He's just been bought out, and other guys like him are struggling to even get a contract. He shouldn't command more than a million, methinks.
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Old 08-01-2016, 06:13 PM   #42
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Damn, I was thinking of Ottawa's shot blocking d-man. Name escapes me. Thanks for the clarification!
Anton Volchenkov. Pretty easy to see why you would confuse him with Antoine Vermette.
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Old 08-01-2016, 07:04 PM   #43
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Maybe LA or Chicago needed a new amazingly good contract
I think this move is a very creative way to make a trade and retain more than 50% salary. There may be a team that wants vermette but is cap stressed and can't afford 1/2 the salary retention. So Arizona buys him out making him ufa and he signs a sweetheart deal with a team who in turn makes a 'trade' with Arizona to reward them for eating the money. Will be very interesting to see where he lands as this is a very puzzling move that has many media types scratching their heads. Has to be more than meets the eye.
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Old 08-01-2016, 07:19 PM   #44
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He isn't a player that helps you win. No point in acquiring
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Old 08-01-2016, 07:19 PM   #45
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If we just had one less Stajan/Bollig on the roster I'd pick him up right away.
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Old 08-02-2016, 09:36 AM   #46
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I think this move is a very creative way to make a trade and retain more than 50% salary. There may be a team that wants vermette but is cap stressed and can't afford 1/2 the salary retention. So Arizona buys him out making him ufa and he signs a sweetheart deal with a team who in turn makes a 'trade' with Arizona to reward them for eating the money. Will be very interesting to see where he lands as this is a very puzzling move that has many media types scratching their heads. Has to be more than meets the eye.
Theory might have worked if he didn't agree to be waived...
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Old 08-02-2016, 09:40 AM   #47
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He didn't agree. His NMC had expired.
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More money in dead-cap space to get the Dogs to the Sal-floor...odd move, though.
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Old 08-13-2016, 10:22 AM   #49
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Antoine Vermette has received 5 offers from NHL teams and will be making a decision on the various offers by Monday.
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Old 08-13-2016, 11:31 AM   #50
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Anybody ever figure out why a money strapped franchise bought Vermette out? Were the advanced stats used by the new GM not flattering?

Okay I guess they are going to save $1.25M but that seems not worth it to me.
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Old 08-13-2016, 11:37 AM   #51
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12 days later and Arizona still hasn't made the second move in this chain of dominoes the Vermette buyout set off? Huh.
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Anybody ever figure out why a money strapped franchise bought Vermette out? Were the advanced stats used by the new GM not flattering?

Okay I guess they are going to save $1.25M but that seems not worth it to me.
Maybe they thought they could pick up Vrbata at $1.25 and they would net out even. Imagine that if they strike out with Vrbata, can see coyotes active in the pto market. They have the flexibility to do this with vermette off the books.
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Just would like to comment that the only way the Flames could get rid of Wideman is by buying out his contract if they still have the opportunity. I do not believe there is an NHL team who would take Wideman even with the Flames eating 1/2 his salary. He is just too slow and does not have sufficient agility to be a successful NHL defenseman with any team.
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Old 08-14-2016, 11:47 AM   #54
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Just would like to comment that the only way the Flames could get rid of Wideman is by buying out his contract if they still have the opportunity. I do not believe there is an NHL team who would take Wideman even with the Flames eating 1/2 his salary. He is just too slow and does not have sufficient agility to be a successful NHL defenseman with any team.
This thread is about Vermette, not Wideman. What's the point of bringing him into this discussion?
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Just would like to comment that the only way the Flames could get rid of Wideman is by buying out his contract if they still have the opportunity. I do not believe there is an NHL team who would take Wideman even with the Flames eating 1/2 his salary. He is just too slow and does not have sufficient agility to be a successful NHL defenseman with any team.
Yeah it was so long ago that he scored 56pts in the NHL there has actually been one entire season since that happened.

No point in buying out Wideman the team has no cap issues and he is an expiring contract
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The only reason they would buy him out is if they are that motivated not to have him around. Seems like seems are strained after everything that happened last season.
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The only reason they would buy him out is if they are that motivated not to have him around. Seems like seems are strained after everything that happened last season.
Then why wouldn't have they just bought him out in June? An August buyout doesn't fit that, my guess is they are looking to bring someone else in.
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Then why wouldn't have they just bought him out in June? An August buyout doesn't fit that, my guess is they are looking to bring someone else in.
Isn't Vrbata the guy coming in now?
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Then why wouldn't have they just bought him out in June? An August buyout doesn't fit that, my guess is they are looking to bring someone else in.
Honestly I don't know. The entire situation puzzles me to no end.
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Honestly I don't know. The entire situation puzzles me to no end.
It is definitely bizarre that is for sure.
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