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mivdo · 06-25-2016, 01:02 AM

I would also like to see Ortio with another chance. Especially with Gulutzan bringing in a new system that will hopefully be a lot tighter on defense, he may become a serviceable and cheap backup.

Caged Great · 06-25-2016, 01:06 AM

Ortio is an adequate choice to roll into the season with.

If the Flames can find a better option that doesn't break the bank, they should do so. It's not priority #1 though. It's sort of like finding a #4 defenseman. If they can, that would be great. If not, that's fine.

dying4acup · 06-25-2016, 01:12 AM

Ortio.

If he fails, picking up a backup for peanuts is easy. Sutter did it all the time. Not to mention expansion.

monkeyman · 06-25-2016, 01:13 AM

What could possibly go wrong having a surplus of goalies in camp to start the season?

I hope BT avoids a repeat of last seasons 3 goalie fiasco.

dying4acup · 06-25-2016, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by monkeyman

What could possibly go wrong having a surplus of goalies in camp to start the season?

I hope BT avoids a repeat of last seasons 3 goalie fiasco.

He's been through THE PROCESS, lesson learned.

driveway · 06-25-2016, 02:23 AM

I hope we don't. 650,000 to Ortio for a year, I'm confident he can back-up Elliott, especially as Elliott is going into a contract year and is going to be looking to play his brains out for us to get that last, big contract. Ortio will be called on for 20-25 games and I believe he'll be more than up to the task.

dying4acup · 06-25-2016, 02:26 AM

Elliot will have an extension in the next 2weeks.

Book it.

DeluxeMoustache · 06-25-2016, 02:27 AM

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Ortio.

If he fails, picking up a backup for peanuts is easy. Sutter did it all the time. Not to mention expansion.

A noted problem during Sutter's term was poor backup performance

DeluxeMoustache · 06-25-2016, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by driveway

I hope we don't. 650,000 to Ortio for a year, I'm confident he can back-up Elliott, especially as Elliott is going into a contract year and is going to be looking to play his brains out for us to get that last, big contract. Ortio will be called on for 20-25 games and I believe he'll be more than up to the task.

I really question whether goalies can play their brains out in a contract year like skaters perhaps can.

Drastically different positions and requirements

Vulcan · 06-25-2016, 02:58 AM

I'd like to give Ortio another chance but than Chad Johnson or a couple of others look good, are more proven and if they come cheap, okay.

Alberta_Beef · 06-25-2016, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by monkeyman

What could possibly go wrong having a surplus of goalies in camp to start the season?

I hope BT avoids a repeat of last seasons 3 goalie fiasco.

It's a sticky situation for sure, unfortunately I think Treliving has to make his decision right away. I think if he gives Ortio a qualifying offer and he accepts it (with his season, I think turning down 660k on a one-way deal would be stupid) we will be tied into having Ortio as the back-up. But if Treliving doesn't extend a qualifying offer or it gets rejected, Treliving would be able to sign a different goalie for the backup role.

I personally hope he either rejects or doesn't get a qualifying offer. I think we can get a better goalie for just a few hundred thousand more.

Poe969 · 06-25-2016, 04:08 AM

For thise suggesting Ramo, yikes, why not save even more cap space and go after Belfore?

I'd go after Hutton, I think he has potential to step up during an injury and be a 1b guy if he had to for a short stretch.

sureLoss · 06-25-2016, 05:35 AM

Sure sounds like they will try to find an upgrade on Ortio, or at least someone they feel more comfortable with taking the starting reigns in case Elliott falters.

Treliving said the Flames believed Elliott was ready to “grab the opportunity now,” but recognized that he has never truly grabbed the reins on a permanent starting job in the past. That’s why he is leaving the door open to acquiring another goaltender - perhaps someone other than restricted free agent Joni Ortio.

Dr. Doom · 06-25-2016, 05:47 AM

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Sure sounds like they will try to find an upgrade on Ortio, or at least someone they feel more comfortable with taking the starting reigns in case Elliott falters.

Treliving said the Flames believed Elliott was ready to “grab the opportunity now,” but recognized that he has never truly grabbed the reins on a permanent starting job in the past. That’s why he is leaving the door open to acquiring another goaltender - perhaps someone other than restricted free agent Joni Ortio.

People need to come to the realization that Ortio simply didn't cut it for a large portion of last season. Look at his stats over 20GP and it will tell you all that you need to know. How could a man of Treliving's intelligence possibly go back to that well?

In a time when proven backups will be a plenty (Montoya, Enroth,Hutton, Kuemper, Reimer, etc.) don't think for a second BT won't acquire one cheap.

Just a matter of when, I think he may wait for July 1st on this one.

JJ1532 · 06-25-2016, 05:54 AM

I agree. Gave up an asset to get Elliott, now I'd like us to get a backup in free agency, no sense in trading for one in my opinion. If we can get Reimer in on a cheap short term deal, that would be excellent. I mean, let's face it, he doesn't have many other options.

Lanny_McDonald · 06-25-2016, 06:17 AM

If you can find a cost effective upgrade on Ortio you do it. If that doesn't come, and Ortio is not performing, the Flames do have a possible ace in the hole with Rittich. Obviously needs an adjustment period, but he could be a decent fallback position if Ortio under performs.

Red Menace · 06-25-2016, 06:49 AM

I'd stick with Ortio

Alberta_Beef · 06-25-2016, 07:43 AM

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If you can find a cost effective upgrade on Ortio you do it. If that doesn't come, and Ortio is not performing, the Flames do have a possible ace in the hole with Rittich. Obviously needs an adjustment period, but he could be a decent fallback position if Ortio under performs.

If the Flames can't find a backup better than Ortio, they aren't looking very hard.

Chad Johnson, Jhonas Enroth, Al Montoya and Carter Hutton are all significantly better than Ortio and UFAs, all of whom would probably consider us a good landing spot because of the potential for them to play a decent number of games.

sureLoss · 06-25-2016, 07:48 AM

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I agree. Gave up an asset to get Elliott, now I'd like us to get a backup in free agency, no sense in trading for one in my opinion. If we can get Reimer in on a cheap short term deal, that would be excellent. I mean, let's face it, he doesn't have many other options.

I think Reimer has a few options now. He doesn't have full time starter option, but there is definitely 1B opportunities with St. Louis and Anaheim. Those teams have 2 young goaltenders that their GMs would like to have a veteran to share the load.

Not sure which opportunity would look more attractive to him. (STL, ANA, CGY)

Table 5 · 06-25-2016, 07:52 AM

I think for some more established teams, having a more proven backup is important. But for us I think the backup position should be reserved as a development position, as we're still looking for our long-term guy. Ortio at least still has a chance to develop into something better...a guy like Montoya is already what he is.

I'm pretty comfortable with an Elliot/Ortio tandem to start.