I think scenario 2 is interesting to explore. So say EDM takes Dubois. Can VAN really afford to take yet another winger? They drafted Boeser last year, Virtanen the year before. Traded for Baertschi. Will they build around wingers? I've heard Benning talk about building through defense and centre. I'm sure they love Tkachuk but they really need to find those cornerstone centres and dmen. I mean it wouldn't shock me if they took Tkachuk but I don't think it's a slam dunk. I think Benning really likes good skaters and Tkachuk is decent but not amazing.
If whoever picks fourth takes Dubois then I think any of the following could happen with Vancouver
-they take Tkachuk
-they take Brown
-they take Sergachev
-they take Juolevi
-they take Chychrun
-they trade down 1-3 spots and take one of the above
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Yeah I didn't get that he excluded 4 and 5 at the very least. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt in that they have a guy at 5 but they also wanted to talk to the guys at 6,7,8 that they like. How did he ever get hired for a GM position as I can't imagine he's a compelling interview?
Yeah I didn't get that he excluded 4 and 5 at the very least. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt in that they have a guy at 5 but they also wanted to talk to the guys at 6,7,8 that they like. How did he ever get hired for a GM position as I can't imagine he's a compelling interview?
The interview is only one part of the process
Just kidding. Burke said, paraphrasing, that he didn't really interview him. He had been working with and monitoring his progress for years and knew he was his guy.
So in essence a compelling interview was not really part of the process after all
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I just don't see the need for the Flames to draft a Dman with such a high pick. With Gio here for probably 5 years, Brodie for longer and guys like Rasmussen, Kylington, Sieloff, Morrison, Wotherspoon, Kanzig, Culkin and Kulak in the system, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
Speaking of not making a lot of sense, Edmonton and Vancouver who ACTUALLY need a puck moving franchise defenceman will probably pick a foward not realizing the only way they will get a franchise dman is by drafting one. That being said, I hope either one of Edmonton or Van get smart for once and pick what they need so we can get something we need.
PS- I still think there is a deal to be had with Columbus. They need to draft a number 1 centerman to replace Johanson and they will not get one via trade. The Flames need a top line RW prospect (Jesse P). I bet Logan Brown is high on Columbus' list of top needs. The Flames will easily have the option to draft Brown, but, we don't need a top centerman- we got Money, Backlund and Bennett.
PS- I still think there is a deal to be had with Columbus. They need to draft a number 1 centerman to replace Johanson and they will not get one via trade. The Flames need a top line RW prospect (Jesse P). I bet Logan Brown is high on Columbus' list of top needs. The Flames will easily have the option to draft Brown, but, we don't need a top centerman- we got Money, Backlund and Bennett.
The problem with this line of thinking is there's a good chance Vancouver likes Brown as well and as such a Columbus-Calgary swap doesn't guarantee them the player they want at all.
The problem with this line of thinking is there's a good chance Vancouver likes Brown as well and as such a Columbus-Calgary swap doesn't guarantee them the player they want at all.
I have a hard time believing that Van would pass on either Dubois or Tkachuk in favor of Brown, but, you never know. That's just what my gut tells me.
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I have a hard time believing that Van would pass on either Dubois or Tkachuk in favor of Brown, but, you never know. That's just what my gut tells me.
But if you're Columbus and running a professional sports team and you have your heart set on Logan Brown, do you deal away a commodity like the #3 pick on a gut feeling Vancouver won't take the guy you want?
Doesn't make any sense. There is a fairly decent chance Brown is on Vancouver's radar, and that alone makes a pick swap between Calgary and Columbus very problematic if their reason for doing it is because of Brown.
But if you're Columbus and running a professional sports team and you have your heart set on Logan Brown, do you deal away a commodity like the #3 pick on a gut feeling Vancouver won't take the guy you want?
Doesn't make any sense. There is a fairly decent chance Brown is on Vancouver's radar, and that alone makes a pick swap between Calgary and Columbus very problematic if their reason for doing it is because of Brown.
Or you just put the framework of the deal in place and wait for Vancouver to pick before you finalize?
I just don't see the need for the Flames to draft a Dman with such a high pick. With Gio here for probably 5 years, Brodie for longer and guys like Rasmussen, Kylington, Sieloff, Morrison, Wotherspoon, Kanzig, Culkin and Kulak in the system, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
Speaking of not making a lot of sense, Edmonton and Vancouver who ACTUALLY need a puck moving franchise defenceman will probably pick a foward not realizing the only way they will get a franchise dman is by drafting one. That being said, I hope either one of Edmonton or Van get smart for once and pick what they need so we can get something we need.
PS- I still think there is a deal to be had with Columbus. They need to draft a number 1 centerman to replace Johanson and they will not get one via trade. The Flames need a top line RW prospect (Jesse P). I bet Logan Brown is high on Columbus' list of top needs. The Flames will easily have the option to draft Brown, but, we don't need a top centerman- we got Money, Backlund and Bennett.
I agree, Rasmussen is our future.
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I think scenario 2 is interesting to explore. So say EDM takes Dubois. Can VAN really afford to take yet another winger? They drafted Boeser last year, Virtanen the year before. Traded for Baertschi. Will they build around wingers? I've heard Benning talk about building through defense and centre. I'm sure they love Tkachuk but they really need to find those cornerstone centres and dmen. I mean it wouldn't shock me if they took Tkachuk but I don't think it's a slam dunk. I think Benning really likes good skaters and Tkachuk is decent but not amazing.
If whoever picks fourth takes Dubois then I think any of the following could happen with Vancouver
-they take Tkachuk
-they take Brown
-they take Sergachev
-they take Juolevi
-they take Chychrun
-they trade down 1-3 spots and take one of the above
If Benning really wants a center and would prefer to move down from a top 5 pick to get one, I think he'll trade the pick and that team will just grab Tkachuk. Same goes for defencemen and he'll get an idea from the teams in the 6-10 range who they are eyeing.
Definitely don't see them "reaching" (yes, we don't know their list) and keeping the pick only to pick someone other than Tkachuk.
To me, Tkachuk will be better than both Baertschi and Virtanen so I'd pick him and figure out what to do with those guys instead.
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