04-13-2016, 02:59 PM
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#41
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Franchise Player
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1. get a goalie
2. get a goalie
3. get a goalie
4. get a goalie
5. get a goalie
6. get a goalie
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04-13-2016, 03:06 PM
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#42
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
1) Goalie
2) Goalie
3) Goalie
4) Goalie
5) Goalie
6) Goalie
Everything is moot if we don't find this team a couple of goalies, so that's my only wish.
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Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
1. get a goalie
2. get a goalie
3. get a goalie
4. get a goalie
5. get a goalie
6. get a goalie
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Jinx!
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04-13-2016, 09:58 PM
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#43
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Crash and Bang Winger
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I hope Flames don't get ahead of the rebuild.
Especially goaltending
so take a risk or two; high upside no sure thing guys.
Example; We got Kipper for second and it was no sure thing at the time.
If we crap out we'll pick high again for one more year. Its all OK.
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04-13-2016, 10:02 PM
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#44
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Northern Crater
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Originally Posted by Gord Wappel
I hope Flames don't get ahead of the rebuild.
Especially goaltending
so take a risk or two; high upside no sure thing guys.
Example; We got Kipper for second and it was no sure thing at the time.
If we crap out we'll pick high again for one more year. Its all OK.
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This team will gunning for the playoffs next season, there will be no half-measures IMO. If Treliving misses next year because of goaltending again, he will find himself on the hot seat. He's not taking that risk, a quality, proven goalie WILL be acquired. I'd bet my house on it.
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04-13-2016, 10:11 PM
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#45
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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1. Acquire a starting goalie who will play 55 - 60 games.
2. The Flames regain the confidence and swagger of last season.
3. Special teams (PP & PK) vastly improve.
4. Most of the RFAs re-sign to value contracts.
5. Puck possession improves.
6. Calgary wins one of the draft lotteries and picks in the Top 3.
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04-13-2016, 10:47 PM
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#46
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Franchise Player
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Here are some wishes, but I am not sure how realistic they are.
1) Re-sign our best players to value deals. (Gaudreau, and Monahan for less than $14M combined).
2) Trim some fat from the bottom of our roster.
3) Get our younger players the right offseason plan, so they can bulk up and improve for next season. (Mainly Bennett, Hamilton, and Ferland)
4) Avoid signing an average goaltender to a long term deal, or trading for one. (ex: Ward, Ramo, Enroth, Raanta, and Howard). I think that in the 2017-18 offseason there will be a lot more gems on the goaltending market(Bishop, Bernier, S. Mason, Elliott, and Neuvirth).
5) Add more cheap, young, and physical players to our bottom six. (ex: Hathaway)
6) Make the system the Flames play more flexible, and harder to shut down.
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04-13-2016, 11:10 PM
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#47
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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1) Hire Julien or Hitchcock
2) Trade for Bishop
3) Trade Wideman to open up a D spot for Nakladal to start the season
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04-14-2016, 12:07 AM
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: PL13
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1. Sign Monahan and Gaudreau to 1 year bridge deals for $5 Million each (they will make it back on the contracts they sign next year). They will agree to do this because it will leave a little extra room to...
2. Sign Okposo to play with Sean and Johnny on the first line.
3. Trade a 2nd round draft pick for Brian Elliott.
4. If picking outside the top three, trade down to about 8 or 9 and select Michael McLeod.
5. Re-sign Derek Grant, then buyout Matt Stajan.
6. Sign David Schlemko for the league minimum.
7. (Bonus) Staple Bollig's rear end to a seat in the pressbox.
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04-14-2016, 12:16 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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1) Sign Monahan/Gaudreau for 13.5-14 million for the pair for 6+ years (preferably 8)
2) Sign Reimer or trade for one of Smith/Fleury/Bishop/Elliott
3) If picking in top 5, pick a forward, if 6-7-8, take either Dubois, Nylander, or a D-man
4) Depending on who is drafted, sign a forward that makes sense in relation to the other players.
5) Attempt to trade all of Wideman/Stajan/Raymond/Engelland/Bollig. If not possible, bury the forwards in Stockton.
6) Sign a decent veteran #4 D-man if Wideman is traded, Nakladal if he isn't.
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04-14-2016, 07:47 AM
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Ass Handler
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Okotoks, AB
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1. Sign Gaudreau to 8yr/56M and Monahan to 8yr/52M.
2. Trade Wideman (50% retained) and Kylington to Dallas for Nichushkin.
3. Trade Poirier and Klimchuk for Matt Murray.
4. Sign David Backes for 4yrs/24M.
5. Trade Bollig and Raymond for late picks.
6. Re-sign Nakladal and Ortio to low-cost, one-way deals.
Pie in the sky kind of stuff, but those are the kinds of moves I feel are needed for this team to fight for a playoff spot next year.
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04-14-2016, 08:16 AM
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#51
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by gvitaly
Here are some wishes, but I am not sure how realistic they are.
1) Re-sign our best players to value deals. (Gaudreau, and Monahan for less than $14M combined).
2) Trim some fat from the bottom of our roster.
3) Get our younger players the right offseason plan, so they can bulk up and improve for next season. (Mainly Bennett, Hamilton, and Ferland)
4) Avoid signing an average goaltender to a long term deal, or trading for one. (ex: Ward, Ramo, Enroth, Raanta, and Howard). I think that in the 2017-18 offseason there will be a lot more gems on the goaltending market(Bishop, Bernier, S. Mason, Elliott, and Neuvirth).
5) Add more cheap, young, and physical players to our bottom six. (ex: Hathaway)
6) Make the system the Flames play more flexible, and harder to shut down.
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For number 3, can teams do that? I mean it is the offseason, can the teams tell them what to do.
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04-14-2016, 08:24 AM
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#53
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Rick M.
Without fully understanding the expansion draft rules, it's impossible to know who to trade/acquire/sign. No point in giving up assets for players we will lose in one year. 
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Very true, I just hope on April 30, they tell us all the rules.
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04-14-2016, 08:45 AM
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#54
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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1) win the draft lottery (at the very least top 3 pick)
2) get a new goalie
3) add a solid 21-27 year old RW to play on the top line
4) clear out some of the dead weight contracts (Stajan, Wideman, Smid, Raymond, Bollig)
5) Add another top 6 forward to play with Bennett and Matthews/Laine/Puljujarvi
6) get a solid #4D
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04-14-2016, 08:52 AM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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Sign Monahan and JG, both under 7 mill, BT I a wizard so it can happen.
Trade/sign a numero uno goalie, the likes of Reimer or Bishop, if that doesn't work then a young guy like Murray.
Trade 2 of the following: Bollig, Wideman, Stajan, Raymond and get a big bodied RW like Brouwer or maybe Ladd and play them on the wing. The best would be Okposo, one can dream!
If no trades then buy-out at least Smid and Raymond.
Sign Ortio to another deal, I would say 2 year deal, $1m/Aav with bonuses if he performs/takes the starter position.
And sign Nakladal, similar 1 year deal, show-me type that he can continue at the NHL what he started this past season. In this scenario I would have to imagine Wideman would be gone, or there is really no space for him to play and for a young guy to step in. We really need Wideman to be traded.
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04-14-2016, 09:13 AM
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#57
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gord Wappel
I hope Flames don't get ahead of the rebuild.
Especially goaltending
so take a risk or two; high upside no sure thing guys.
Example; We got Kipper for second and it was no sure thing at the time.
If we crap out we'll pick high again for one more year. Its all OK.
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Just wondering what getting ahead of the rebuild means to you?
Picking high isn't a goal for me, or something that's "all OK" it's a consolation for a failure season.
Everyone talks about this, says our window hasn't opened up and so on. Yet you've got Gio and cheap, late 20s Backlund and a bunch of nice middle 6ers in the same age range. There's ending ELCs, RFAs needing paydays left and right. We were not able to capitalize on the cheap years of Johnny or Monahan, unfortunately. It will only get more expensive from here.
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Originally Posted by Par
For number 3, can teams do that? I mean it is the offseason, can the teams tell them what to do.
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They can try but the player has no obligation to do what the team wants him to do.
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Last edited by saillias; 04-14-2016 at 09:17 AM.
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04-14-2016, 01:25 PM
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#58
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
1) Dump the contracts of Dennis Wideman, Ladislav Smid, and Mason Raymond without giving up futures.
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2) Draft Matthews, Laine, Puljujarvi, Dubois, or Rubtsov.
3) Keep Johnny and Monny for combiend AAV around 12.5M and plenty of term. Hold on to Jakub Nakladal too.
4) Dallas makes it to WCF
5) Get a quality goalie with not-much-term or acquisition cost to ween Ortio into a starter role. Ryan Miller or such.
6) Bring back David Schlemko on an affordable short-term contract to be Dougie's partner.
Final roster outlook:
Shinkaruk-Monahan-Gaudreau
Ferland-Bennett-Laine
Stajan-Backlund-Frolik
Bouma-Grant-Hathaway
Giordano-Brodie
Schlemko-Hamilton
Jokipakka-Nakladal
Wotherspoon
Ortio 45GP
Miller 37GP
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Last edited by GranteedEV; 04-14-2016 at 01:27 PM.
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04-14-2016, 01:34 PM
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#59
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada!
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1. Re-sign Mony and Johnny to long term deals that leave some cap room on the table (6 years at least should be what they sign for)
2. Get Colborne signed to a bridge contract (I know they dont happen but might be a perfect scenario to keep his cap number down while giving him a chance to further blossom and earn a bigger deal)
3. Address Goaltending (Not sure what to do but Ortio signed and a solid starter brought in would be huge)
4. Make the most of the draft. (Flames have really done great with the draft for a few years now, even if we dont win the lottery just keep drafting well to keep the continuity)
5. Settle bottom half of D (I want to see Nakladal, Wotherspoon and Jokipakka as the bottom 3 but also wouldn't mind seeing someone else steal a spot in camp)
6. Coaching staff putting the work in to improve defensive play and puck possession (Even if we roll with the same coaching staff I want to see them evolve the systems over the summer so that they can transition into a team that is harder to exploit)
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04-14-2016, 01:50 PM
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#60
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by GranteedEV
2) Draft Matthews, Laine, Puljujarvi, Dubois, or Rubtsov.
3) Keep Johnny and Monny for combiend AAV around 12.5M and plenty of term. Hold on to Jakub Nakladal too.
4) Dallas makes it to WCF
5) Get a quality goalie with not-much-term or acquisition cost to ween Ortio into a starter role. Ryan Miller or such.
6) Bring back David Schlemko on an affordable short-term contract to be Dougie's partner.
Final roster outlook:
Shinkaruk-Monahan-Gaudreau
Ferland-Bennett-Laine
Stajan-Backlund-Frolik
Bouma-Grant-Hathaway
Giordano-Brodie
Schlemko-Hamilton
Jokipakka-Nakladal
Wotherspoon
Ortio 45GP
Miller 37GP
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Not a fan of this lineup. No way Shinkaruk is ready for top line NHL duty. Like the blueline though but hate the Miller trade.
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