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Old 04-01-2016, 01:47 PM   #41
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Kadri is coming into his own. Will be a solid 2nd line center for the Laughs moving forward. Would easily take him on the Flames.
I would rather keep Bennett at C and have Backlund as the 3rd C. Kadri isn't a fit here at all.
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Old 04-01-2016, 02:07 PM   #42
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When a player cries wolf, making refs look foolish time and time again, hard for the ref not to remember. Right or wrong, I don't blame them a bit. Karma is a bitch.
I thought refs weren't supposed to ref with their emotions.
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Old 04-01-2016, 02:10 PM   #43
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I thought refs weren't supposed to ref with their emotions.
Tell Kovalev that. He dove like Louganis against Quebec and never got a call the rest of his career.
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Old 04-01-2016, 02:10 PM   #44
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I thought refs weren't supposed to ref with their emotions.
Haha good memory. While I agree, we both know it's hard to do.
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Old 04-01-2016, 02:16 PM   #45
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It was embellishment, not diving. You can still embellish on a legitimate penalty.
Cox's tweet is itself an embellishment offence because it is a feigned outrage for the league applying its rulebook.

Diving / Embellishment are essentially treated as one category of misconduct in the rules, but as you say getting the penalty has nothing to do with whether you were actually fouled...in fact by definition, embellishing a fall or feigning an injury (which clearly can be caused by an illegal act by your opponent) get you a penalty...and then fines. It's in black and white and ironically the fine policy is itself incorporated by reference in the rules:

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So will Cox next tweet be "Love a league that tells its players in advance exactly what will happen to them if they performance act instead of playing the game"?
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Old 04-01-2016, 02:17 PM   #46
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Oldest rule in the book, every coach will teach it to his players.

the refs will show a lot of leniency in favor of game pace and flow as long as you don't do something stupid right in front of him, or outright embarrass him.

Look at what happened to the Canucks in the finals run. they embarressed the refs one to many times with their antics, and in the finals, they couldn't get a call to save their lives. One of the Bruins could have bought a gun on the ice and murdered the Sedin's right in front of the ref and there wouldn't be a call.
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Old 04-01-2016, 02:25 PM   #47
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I hope one of these days, someone feed Kadri his lunch. I hate that punk!
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Old 04-01-2016, 03:53 PM   #48
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Why are people hating Kadri? He's really stepped up this year. I would love him on the Flames over Backlund
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Old 04-01-2016, 04:09 PM   #49
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The Kadri fine was two seperate instances. $2000 for a dive against Ottawa, and $3000 for his embellishment against Calgary.

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Why are people hating Kadri? He's really stepped up this year. I would love him on the Flames over Backlund
Because even a talented dbag is still a dbag.
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Old 04-01-2016, 11:08 PM   #51
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Why are people hating Kadri? He's really stepped up this year. I would love him on the Flames over Backlund
did you miss the part where he was fined for diving twice last month
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Old 04-01-2016, 11:12 PM   #52
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The Kadri fine was two seperate instances. $2000 for a dive against Ottawa, and $3000 for his embellishment against Calgary.

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And don't forget $5,000 for his throat slashing gesture against Gio. That's $10k in fines for being a drama queen.
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Old 04-01-2016, 11:29 PM   #53
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did you miss the part where he was fined for diving twice last month
Meh, so what. I don't mind a player that dives. I put that on the same level as a player who cheats (ie, Ryan Close making a play from the bench), makes a dirty play when the refs aren't looking, uses questionable goalie equipment, takes PEDs, or whatever else you can use to get an advantage over your opponents bordering on the rules of the game. It makes the game enjoyable when players desperately wanna win.
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Meh, so what. I don't mind a player that dives. I put that on the same level as a player who cheats (ie, Ryan Close making a play from the bench), makes a dirty play when the refs aren't looking, uses questionable goalie equipment, takes PEDs, or whatever else you can use to get an advantage over your opponents bordering on the rules of the game. It makes the game enjoyable when players desperately wanna win.
I wish i ran the account "thispostisgarbage" or whatever it is, because id love to thank you for this.

you lump so many extravagantly different things together and paint it all under the "he desperately wants to win" brush. incredibly bad post.
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I wish i ran the account "thispostisgarbage" or whatever it is, because id love to thank you for this.

you lump so many extravagantly different things together and paint it all under the "he desperately wants to win" brush. incredibly bad post.
No kidding. There's gamesmenship, and there's being a dink. Kadri is the latter
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Old 04-02-2016, 12:26 AM   #56
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There are some who have said it better than I could in this thread but WRGMGs is when people can not distinguish the difference between diving and embellishment. They are not the same. In my mind a dive is to create a phantom call. Where as an embellishment is to further sell a legitimate call.

Exhibit A: Kadri takes some stick work from Johnny and Jooris. Sure he got hit, but the sell job was ridiculous.
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Old 04-02-2016, 01:25 AM   #57
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Meh, so what. I don't mind a player that dives. I put that on the same level as a player who cheats (ie, Ryan Close making a play from the bench), makes a dirty play when the refs aren't looking, uses questionable goalie equipment, takes PEDs, or whatever else you can use to get an advantage over your opponents bordering on the rules of the game. It makes the game enjoyable when players desperately wanna win.
Desperately wanna win is when you go to the corner, stand in front of the net taking the hack and slash, you fight to wake you team up, you block shots with your face if you have to. What Kadri did was NOT desperately wanna win. Like what another poster has said, Kadri is a dink and a punk. Calling him a rat is a disgrace to the rats.
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Meh, so what. I don't mind a player that dives. I put that on the same level as a player who cheats (ie, Ryan Close making a play from the bench), makes a dirty play when the refs aren't looking, uses questionable goalie equipment, takes PEDs, or whatever else you can use to get an advantage over your opponents bordering on the rules of the game. It makes the game enjoyable when players desperately wanna win.
First you actually use the word "cheat", then it's somehow "bordering" the rules? Which side of the border?

And unbelievable that you've somehow tried to make it appear that Kadri is a special player who desperately wants to win. Kind of like Hall skating through walls.
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Kadri may actually be my least favourite player in the NHL at the moment. Tough guy when hitting guys from behind but a coward when he has to stand up to them face-to-face. Also a little bitch with all the embellishments and complaining.

The fact that I live in Leafs region as get to watch all of the garbage that goes with that probably assists with that opinion too
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Kadri to have a hearing for this cross-check to the head of Luke Glendening. Scroll to about the 2:30 mark.

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