Who might be on the move this summer?

[Calgary4LIfe]

I don't think the Flames are going to be moving Colborne unless another team offers something stupid.

[Enoch Root]

Wideman's trade value is definitely at a low. But sometimes you just need to move on. Also, there are other players that are ready for that roster spot. And Hamilton is ready for his PP spot. This is not a slight on Wideman, but I think the team actually improves just by moving on - regardless of the return.

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

Why would anyone want Wideman gone in the offseason? I'm all on board if it's to free up room to bring in a player we desparetly need (I.e. Top 6 winger to round us out), but I doubt that's likely. If that isn't the case, then why have cap space for the sake of it.

Wideman's trade value is at an all time low right now. Flames are better off hoping he bounces back even just a little and get more value at the deadline or mid season. No reason to rush out the door unless we have immediate need for the cap space.

The reason why Wideman's value is low is because he's not a good hockey player. We have better options for his ice-time. Keeping Wideman could potentially cost us Nakladal and Wotherspoon. Lots of reasons to move Wideman that don't involve cap hit.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

The reason why Wideman's value is low is because he's not a good hockey player. We have better options for his ice-time. Keeping Wideman could potentially cost us Nakladal and Wotherspoon. Lots of reasons to move Wideman that don't involve cap hit.

Whereas there is just one reason not to move Wideman: If he's as bad as you say, nobody wants him.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Whereas there is just one reason not to move Wideman: If he's as bad as you say, nobody wants him.

Wideman isn't as bad as some say. He's just redundant on the Flames with the younger Hamilton and Nakladal having passed him. Doesn't mean he wouldn't be top four on a team in need of a right shooting vet dman. But here he's been pushed to the 3rd pairing and frankly could be completely replaced.

[Alberta_Beef]

I have this gut feeling the Flames will move Colborne+ for a goaltender

[stemit14]

I think the most likely scenario for trading wideman without retaining a large part of his salary is to trade him for a similar veteran contract. I know this won't be a popular opinion but an example would be a wideman for iginla trade.

The Avalanche need a top 4/5 defensemen who can contribute offensively. The flames need to make room for developing defensemen like kulak/wotherspoon/Jokipakka. The cap hits are a wash. The flames could use a goal-scoring right winger with some grit who improves the powerplay. Both players have contracts that expire at the end of next season. Both would be viable tradable assets at the trade deadline if either team were out of the playoff race. It's a low risk move for both teams that addresses a need.


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[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Wideman isn't as bad as some say. He's just redundant on the Flames with the younger Hamilton and Nakladal having passed him.

I'll buy that.

What I won't buy is the argument that goes, ‘X is junk! X is useless! We should trade X and get something valuable for him!’

(For those logic wonks who wish to keep track, this particular argument commits the fallacy known as argumentum sine cerebrum.)

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by stemit14

I think the most likely scenario for trading wideman without retaining a large part of his salary is to trade him for a similar veteran contract. I know this won't be a popular opinion but an example would be a wideman for iginla trade.

The Avalanche need a top 4/5 defensemen who can contribute offensively. The flames need to make room for developing defensemen like kulak/wotherspoon/Jokipakka. The cap hits are a wash. The flames could use a goal-scoring right winger with some grit who improves the powerplay. Both players have contracts that expire at the end of next season. Both would be viable tradable assets at the trade deadline if either team were out of the playoff race. It's a low risk move for both teams that addresses a need.


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I'd be okay with that. Iginla sure isn't what he was but we need a RW. I kind of doubt Iginla would want to move though.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by stemit14

I think the most likely scenario for trading wideman without retaining a large part of his salary is to trade him for a similar veteran contract. I know this won't be a popular opinion but an example would be a wideman for iginla trade.

The Avalanche need a top 4/5 defensemen who can contribute offensively. The flames need to make room for developing defensemen like kulak/wotherspoon/Jokipakka. The cap hits are a wash. The flames could use a goal-scoring right winger with some grit who improves the powerplay. Both players have contracts that expire at the end of next season. Both would be viable tradable assets at the trade deadline if either team were out of the playoff race. It's a low risk move for both teams that addresses a need.


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Thomas Vanek would be another option of the same mind set. One year left @ $6.5 million.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by stemit14

I think the most likely scenario for trading wideman without retaining a large part of his salary is to trade him for a similar veteran contract. I know this won't be a popular opinion but an example would be a wideman for iginla trade.

I like the idea of moving Wideman for another bad salary in an offensive player on the right side, but Iginla is non-starter. I'd rather sit on Wideman than take on Iginla. People need to watch some Colorado games. He's lost too many steps and is a liability in the defensive zone. Seriously, people have to stop thinking about the great player Iginla was here in Calgary 12 years ago. Take the really one dimensional mediocre Iginla that was here four years ago, then reduce that player by 50%. The guy in Colorado is not a player we want on this team. He's slow and hopeless in one half of the ice.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Thomas Vanek would be another option of the same mind set. One year left @ $6.5 million.

Agree with this. If Wideman gets moved its for a veteran forward at too high a salary. Still have to decide if that is worth it as Wideman may f tech more at the deadline than said forward.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Just looking around rosters for next season to see who needs defensemen and the list is somewhat limited. Dallas has three guys signed (Klingberg, Oduya and Nemeth) and only one RFA (Olesiak). Wideman with salary retained could be of interest to them. They do have a RW that "might" be of interest to us too (Nichushkin). Toronto could possibly use a veteran on the blueline. We could swap Wideman for Michalek and retain the difference. There really isn't much on the Leafs of interest. After that, I don't see much demand for Wideman and his salary.