If he turns into a Paul Byron type player that could play bottom 6 in the NHL that would be a very productive 6th round pick. If he turns into more it's all gravy.
Great news! First step! As others have suggested it would be great if he could become a Tyler Johnson or Brendan Gallagher level player. I'd be happy with a Paul Byron. Hope he dominates at prospects camp this summer then turns some heads in main camp. Make Treliving's job difficult for him, young man!
The dummy that's on the Fan described Mangiapane as 5'5" when talking about this signing.
I had to turn the fan off today. Bruce Dumbiggen was talking abut how Monahan shouldn't have played in the NHL his rookie year, didn't accomplish anything. What a ####ing troll.
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I had to turn the fan off today. Bruce Dumbiggen was talking abut how Monahan shouldn't have played in the NHL his rookie year, didn't accomplish anything. What a ####ing troll.
No kidding. Oh and Dowbiggin then asked what draft year Mangiapane was from as he wasn't sure he was a "current management" draft pick.
So he thought Mangiapane was possibly from the 2013 Monahan/Poirier/Klimchuk draft.
This is a professional who is supposed to be knowledgeable, specifically about the Calgary Flames?
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This is a professional who is supposed to be knowledgeable, specifically about the Calgary Flames?
This is the same guy who, back in '04 or thereabouts, announced to the world that the Flames were doomed to lose Jarome Iginla as a UFA because the team could not afford to give him the 10% raise required on his qualifying offer.
Of course, he was wrong about the QO: only players earning less than the NHL average had to be offered a 10% raise. And he was wrong about what the team could afford. His conclusion was so far out there it fell into the category of ‘not even wrong’.
Dowbiggin isn't always out to lunch, but when he does go out to lunch, he takes his tiffin in a whole ’nother galaxy. If you ever hear somebody say that oranges are blue, and bunny rabbits have wheels, and therefore the Saskatchewan Roughriders are going to win the Stanley Cup – well, you're probably hearing Bruce Dowbiggin on one of his bad days.
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Speaking of pro contract / expansion draft protection stuff, does a player burn a year of pro status if he plays less than 10 NHL games and got sent back down to juniors?
We don't know how they'll define a "pro season" for the Expansion Draft, but this is how the CBA defines a "Professional Season" for the purposes of eligibility for Group 5 or 6 free agency:
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(A) for a Player aged 18 or 19, mean any season in which such Player plays in eleven (11) or more Professional Games (including NHL Regular Season and Playoff Games, minor league regular season and playoff games, and games played in any European professional league, while under an SPC), and (B) for a Player aged 20 or older, mean any season in which such Player plays in one or more Professional Games (including NHL Regular Season and Playoff Games, minor league regular season and playoff games, and games played in any European professional league, while under an SPC).
Under that definition, the season that Poirier and Shinkaruk played in the AHL last season would count as a year of pro experience despite the fact that their contracts slid for a year. However, Gillies' season last year wouldn't count despite the fact that his contract counted because he didn't play any professional games.
On the other hand, this is the CBA's definition of a year of "Professional Experience" with regards to Group 2 RFAs:
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Player aged 18 or 19 earns a year of professional experience by playing ten (10) or more NHL Games in a given NHL Season, and a Player aged 20 or older (or who turns 20 between September 16 and December 31 of the year in which he signs his first SPC) earns a year of professional experience by playing ten (10) or more Professional Games under an SPC in a given League Year.
Under that definition, Poirier and Shinkaruk's seasons last year would still count because they turned 20 before December 31 last year (actually, re-reading it, their games last season might not count because they signed their ELCs in the year they turned 19, not 20). Neither last year nor this year would count for Gillies under than definition because he didn't play 10 games in either season.
For Mangiapane, it won't matter because any games he plays this season will likely be in Stockton under an ATO and won't likely be under an SPC, so they won't count as professional experience anyway if he were to somehow play in 11 pro games. If he plays in the AHL next season, he'll be a first year pro and exempt from the expansion draft.
For a player like Sam Reinhart, who was sent back to junior after less than 10 games played last season, that wouldn't count as a year of pro experience. Sam Bennett's season last year will count because playoff games count the same as regular season games for the purpose of pro experience.
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Besides a weekly fluff piece of the Sportsnet website what does Bruce even do anymore?
I think he fancies himself as somewhat of a bestselling author now. Not a radio appearance goes by where he doesn't plug "Money Players" or any other one of his books.
Reminds me of that QR radio hack years ago, Terry Moore. Pretty sure he mentioned every morning that he'd wrote a book..."Toothpaste and Peanut Butter". So terribad.
I always find Bruce Debbie-Downer to be just that - a Debbie-Downer. It seems like he HAS to write about a team he dislikes. His facts are often completely wrong, or just has them missing in some articles. IIRC, isn't he a Canuck fan? I just learned years ago that there is no point in reading his articles, or giving any attention while he does tidbits here and there. I do the same with Francis, Cox and Healy. I can read an anti-Flames or a piece that is even unfairly critical of the Flames or a particular player, but I can't stand that AND have facts missing, or worse - wrong and/or made-up.
As for Mangiapane, his first year pro season will be very interesting. I try not to be so excited about him given that there are smaller guys who just don't translate at all. There are a tonne more small guys making it AND having an impact on their respective teams however. Trying to keep my meter right at 50%. It is nice to see him turning it up in the last bit of the season especially. Hope he has a very productive playoffs (as I hope does Andersson), and further plants himself in the "things I am excited about next season" list.
He seems like a much more 'Brendan Gallagher" type than a Gaudreau type. I think maybe his closest comparison is actually the guy that most smaller players get compared to - St. Louis. He isn't slight like Gaudreau and Sullivan. He is physical but isn't that physical or a rat like Marchand and Gallagher. He has good hands, speed and IQ unlike someone like a Nathan Gerbe who seemed to rely more on his speed and physicality. Not saying Mangiapane is going to be the next St. Louis - I just think he has the most similar playing style to him, and I am really, really curious to see how he translates as a pro next season.
And he really isn't that tiny as compared to other smaller players. Still bigger than Gaudreau and Byron for sure, and probably isn't much smaller than someone like Granlund.
