02-17-2016, 03:34 PM
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Franchise Player
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Location: Calgary
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Not surprising. Although this decision backfired on a few pundits who believed the suspension would be reduced to 10 games.
Ride it out, Wideman will be a Flame next season and hopefully he can have a rebound season and become the #1 trade deadline day piece the Flames can move next year.
Out of curiosity, does anyone know what the timeline will be like for the 3rd party mediation on this? How many of the 20 game suspension can we expect him to serve once the mediation process is complete? 15 games?
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02-17-2016, 03:34 PM
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#42
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
The text was submitted as evidence according to the decision as Exhibit B. No mention as how they got the text.
Would have to assume said teammate gave the text to the NHL.
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Actually it makes more sense that they got it off of Wideman's phone.
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02-17-2016, 03:34 PM
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#43
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
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Interesting that Bettman agrees that this was done out of anger. I guess not totally surprising but really shows that the league took this as an intentional and deliberate attack on the official.
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02-17-2016, 03:35 PM
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#44
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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How can that text be admissible? I'm sure Wideman knows who he sent that text to. This can't be a good thing for the locker room. Brady didn't give over his phone so why would Wideman and why would the NHL even bring his phone into an on-ice infraction?
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02-17-2016, 03:35 PM
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I believe in the Jays.
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I think it's really dumb that players can't play while the appeal process is ongoing.
I mean... what if an independent arbitrator finds in favor of the player and there should have been no suspension? Sure, he get's paid but it's not like you can nullify the results and replay the games where (in theory) that player might have been the difference between winning and losing.
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02-17-2016, 03:36 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Actually it makes more sense that they got it off of Wideman's phone.
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Apparently according to Friedman the NHL subpeonaed his phone records.
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02-17-2016, 03:36 PM
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#47
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Right behind you.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
How did the NHL get Wideman's text messages? Subpoena. I didn't know they had that power, but evidently they do.
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Someone is busted in that locker room - and likely off the Wideman's Christmas card list for life!
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02-17-2016, 03:36 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Apr 2006
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No surprise here. I've moved on and don't really care. If plays again this year great if not great. This gets Nakladal into the line up I'm all for it. Feel for Widemen though as I do believe he is being made an example of.
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02-17-2016, 03:36 PM
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Mar 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli 3m3 minutes ago
Bettman says in decision he is "troubled" by Wideman's "total failure to accept any responsibility for his actions." (1/2)
Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli
Wideman sent text msg to teammate on Feb. 2: "(t)he only problem and the only reason I'm here is cause the stupid refs and stupid media."
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Did he not learn from Tom Brady....trash your cell phone before you go to your hearing!!
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02-17-2016, 03:37 PM
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#50
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Well, a call will certainly never be going in Wideman's favour again for the rest of his time in the league.
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02-17-2016, 03:37 PM
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#51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Apparently according to Friedman the NHL subpeonaed his phone records.
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If they can subpoena texts for disciplinary hearings - that is crazy!
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02-17-2016, 03:37 PM
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#52
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I don't know how an arbitrator could change it after what we have learned today.
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02-17-2016, 03:37 PM
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Voted for Kodos
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I think it's pretty obvious that Wideman thinks he doesn't deserve a suspension, even after the proceedings. Frankly, I think that's fairly good evidence that this was a complete accident. If there was ever any intent, for even half a second, Wideman would likely say, "I guess a deserve a small suspension."
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02-17-2016, 03:38 PM
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#54
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Apparently according to Friedman the NHL subpeonaed his phone records.
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If that's the case then Wideman deserved the full 20 games for being stupid. Why would you text that knowing you were going to appeal?
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02-17-2016, 03:40 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
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Interesting:
Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli
Also: NHLPA acknowledged Bettman's authority to reduce suspension. NHLPA did not request reduction, maintaining no suspension was warranted.
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02-17-2016, 03:40 PM
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#56
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Well, maybe to me, if anything the text kinda points me more in the direction that Wideman really didn't know wtf he was doing.
If he's accepting any blame, that points towards guilt. If he feels he didn't do anything wrong, how can that text message indicate anything close to intent?
It's consistent with Wideman's story at the least.
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02-17-2016, 03:40 PM
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#57
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Stupid for Wideman to text that and kind of bush league for Bettman to release that to the media.
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02-17-2016, 03:40 PM
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#58
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
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If texts can be subpoenaed then every NHL player now is going to have to carry a burner phone!!
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02-17-2016, 03:40 PM
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Scoring Winger
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when you really think about it, this was going to be the case all along, only the neutral arbitrator was going to reduce this suspension
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02-17-2016, 03:41 PM
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So Wideman and Treliving didn't even ask for a reduction? Just a straight no suspension?
That seems crazy to me.
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