Look at the size and weight specs for a typical DJI quadcopter. Most/all consumer level ones are small and the potential for lethal damage is minuscule to microscopic. Comparing it to the dangers of driving a car are ridiculous.
It isn't just lethal dangers, it wasn't a huge drone that cost that kid his eye. And I didn't compare it to the dangers of driving a car, of course it's ridiculous when you create a straw man and argue against that instead of what I said.
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File a flight plan for my 2lbs RC quadcopter?
That's also not what I said.
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I was looking at phantom 3 tonight. I picked it up and seriously, if I threw it as hard as I could, I doubt it would kill an adult, it just doesn't have the mass. You can't just take one lost eye and say anything conclusive about it. If it fell from the sky and hit a car, I doubt it would go through a car window.
Driving to the store to buy it would be the riskiest part of the whole endeavor.
Yes please. Ban them within city limits. They're annoying to listen to, a privacy issue, and a potential hazard.
Yup only makes sense.
Here in yhe Greater Victoria Area all types of R. Aircraft are banned for legal flights. Even if you live in Sannich, North Sannich etc... There is only one authorized space to fly them legally is . a very small area owned by the R.C model aircraft club here. It is the only place the T.C.C.A.A has appoved drones and other R.C. aircraft. The only way you can actually use this mini air strip is if your a a dues paying member of the club. It's considered private property so the chase out interlopers pretty quickly.
A bit off topic, but I'll have a brand new, unopened box Phantom 3 Advanced for sale as soon as it takes to arrive from DJI. Will be selling at less than stores charge so If interested shoot me a PM.
Someone was flying his drone around the off leash dog park on the weekend. What a ******* moron. Not only is it unsafe, it drove the dogs insane. Unfortunately I couldn't figure out who was pilotting it otherwise I would have grabbed a couple other owners and headed over for a chat.
If the opportunity came about, I would have had zero hesitation to knock it out of the air and stomp on it.
Get outside the god damn city if you want to play with one of these things.
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I was talking to a forrest fire fighter and she said that drones impacted the fire fighting this summer. The gist of it was they can't do certain fire fighting activities unless a helicopter is available to them if they get hurt. Helicopters won't fly in areas with unknown aircraft buzzing around so they weren't able to do most things like use a chain saw.
As a layperson when it comes to drones I wouldn't have know this would have been an issue. I would not be surprised to see some sort of licencing introduced for drone operators.
I'm pretty against them without proper licenses and having to pre-declare flight plans to a central board. I know my parents spoke about the Oliver fires this summer and one of the main reasons it go so out of hand is because someone felt the need to fly a drone by the fires. With the drone flying in the same airspace as the water bombers, the water bombers were delayed several hours before it was safe to fly in with the drone in the way.
It isn't just lethal dangers, it wasn't a huge drone that cost that kid his eye.
If I was bored I would go and pull statistics of hospital ER visits and show you that basically every popular toy or sport has caused some pretty horrific accidents, regardless of its nature.
Believing this activity should or could be without potential for accident is impossible. It is no more or less dangerous than it could be, accidents will happen regardless of regulation.
Think of all the injuries, fatalities, brain injuries that come a long with riding a bike. It is an insanely dangerous activity for children, yet, we do not have licenses for children, or a training exam that parents are required to pass, yet here we are, surviving in a state with rogue bike operators out to get themselves killed. (Seriously, the statistics on bike injuries are horrific, but I digress).
"Drones" (like pipelines or oilsands) are the media's "hot" whipping boys right now. Its easy to hate on them when you have a limited understanding of the activity. For a frame of reference, as someone in the hobby, when people call them "drones", it is the exact same thing as people calling them "tar sands" to someone who is in the oil patch. Sure, it is not totally untrue term for them, but it is clearly exploiting an inherent bias in your emotions (tar is dirty, and drones murder people in Middle east).
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"Drones" (like pipelines or oilsands) are the media's "hot" whipping boys right now. Its easy to hate on them when you have a limited understanding of the activity. For a frame of reference, as someone in the hobby, when people call them "drones", it is the exact same thing as people calling them "tar sands" to someone who is in the oil patch. Sure, it is not totally untrue term for them, but it is clearly exploiting an inherent bias in your emotions (tar is dirty, and drones murder people in Middle east).
Exactly. Exactly the same thing that goes on in the media regarding firearm ownership. So many articles I read full of incorrect/bad information. I read one from the CBC the other day where the author says, and I quote, "Now anyone with $30 can fly a drone to 10,000 feet." When people say "drone" these days, what they are really referring to is a quadcopter and very little chance that even a high end quad costing thousands is reaching that altitude. Someone spending $30 has purchased a quad that wouldn't survive a light breeze.
Believing this activity should or could be without potential for accident is impossible.
I've never said it should be and I've never argued for that.
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Sure, it is not totally untrue term for them, but it is clearly exploiting an inherent bias in your emotions (tar is dirty, and drones murder people in Middle east).
Lol whatever, keep droning on against points I never made or things I don't think.
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A friend has had a drone for a few years - a custom-made four-propeller unit. Considerably bigger than a garbage-can lid. Spent thousands on it, hoping to find some commercial application using in for surveying out in the bush. Now he just plays around with it, flying around the city. If it went down over a road, it could be catastrophic, which is why I don't want any part of it.
He did get some good laughs out of it a couple summers ago, camping at a music festival with some of our buddies. It's late, dark, and there a bunch of younger campers nearby, wazzed out on shrooms or some other hippie treats. So my buddies fired up the drone and buzzed the campsite. Comedy ensued.
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I've never said it should be and I've never argued for that.
Lol whatever, keep droning on against points I never made or things I don't think.
And where did I say everything I posted was a direct and exact rebuttal to points you've made? You made points against drones, I made counter-points in support of drones, hoping to dispell some common things mentioned (implied OR explicit) in this thread and the media.
