This is starting to give me an impression that Treliving really wants to go deep this year. Sign 2-3 vets to AHL deals that can potentially come up late in the year when injuries become a problem.
This is starting to give me an impression that Treliving really wants to go deep this year. Sign 2-3 vets to AHL deals that can potentially come up late in the year when injuries become a problem.
The problem with that statement is that I don't think Murray can step in even in relief. He was slow then, probably slower now. And the NHL is faster than ever.
I'd rather throw in a Wotherspoon who could at least keep up the pace, if not being totally NHL ready.
Thats all I can really think of too, but we dont really need cap relief.
And moving, for instance, Russell or Engelland and replacing them with Murray or Johnson gives us cap relief but makes our team worse which doesnt really seem like Treliving's style.
That's not really true going into next off season. Still not expecting a trade on eve of training camp.
The problem with that statement is that I don't think Murray can step in even in relief. He was slow then, probably slower now. And the NHL is faster than ever.
I'd rather throw in a Wotherspoon who could at least keep up the pace, if not being totally NHL ready.
That's great if rookies can step up and provide more in the NHL than these old veteran defense men. Treliving can rest easier having Wotherspoon up here as the 7th defenseman/first call-up without worrying about the AHL team tanking due to having 0 veteran D experience on the farm.
I honestly think PTO's are as much about filling out camp when you have split squads and back to back games to start a preseason schedule then it is about seeing a guy in your actual plans. Better to have Murray count as one of those "NHL guys" for league rules in the preseason then to beat the tar out of say Brodie and Giordano in the silly season.
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More competition is always good. Between Wilson, Murray, and Johnson, you have to figure that one of those guys will take Potter's 8th/9th defenseman role while another would take Yonkman's spot.
Experience and leadership in the A is never a bad thing even though it's more of a developmental focus.
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Murray is definitely a long shot for a contract if he didn't earn one when Gio was out last year
Different circumstances though.
Last season, his PTO started after the trade deadline, which meant if he had been signed, he would have been ineligible to play in the playoffs. If he would have established himself in the lineup, it could have been a setback when the playoffs rolled around, and he had to be replaced.
Also, signing him at the end of last season would have been one more contract on the books, which might have impacted the ability to sign a college free agent. As it was, with Bennett playing 10+ games and his contract no longer sliding, and Gillies signing after the Frozen Four, the Flames ended the season with 49 contracts on the books.
With the new season, there are many available options for Murray, including the AHL. Right now, the Flames have 47 NHL contracts for 2015-16, with Kylington and McDonald's able to slide, so they effectively have room to add five contracts.
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I honestly think PTO's are as much about filling out camp when you have split squads and back to back games to start a preseason schedule then it is about seeing a guy in your actual plans. Better to have Murray count as one of those "NHL guys" for league rules in the preseason then to beat the tar out of say Brodie and Giordano in the silly season.
That's a good point. I forgot about the veterans rule for the preseason. All of Murray, Johnson, and Wilson have played more than 100 NHL games, so they all count as veterans.
Here are the preseason requirements...
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A Club shall be permitted to dress a minimum of eight (8) veterans for any Exhibition Game.
For purposes of this Section 15.4(c), a veteran shall constitute either:
(1) a forward or defenseman who played in thirty (30) NHL Games during the previous season,
(2) a goaltender who either dressed in fifty (50) or more NHL Games or played in thirty (30) or more NHL Games in the previous season,
(3) a first round draft choice from the most recent year's Entry Draft, or
(4) any Player who has played one-hundred (100) or more career NHL Games.
The matter of Player participation in Exhibition Games shall be referred to the NHL/NHLPA Competition Committee for its consideration and recommendations, if any, in accordance with Article 22.
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That's a good point. I forgot about the veterans rule for the preseason. All of Murray, Johnson, and Wilson have played more than 100 NHL games, so they all count as veterans.
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(3) a first round draft choice from the most recent year's Entry Draft
This one highlights the fact that this rule is about insuring a certain level of entertainment value for preseason games as opposed to insuring competition level.
Zero games makes a veteran if you were this year's first round pick.
Douglas Murray can be handy in the a 2nd round series vs one of the big teams like ANA or STL. If they manage to sign him out of camp he'll be a welcome depth addition to the club.
Douglas Murray can be handy in the a 2nd round series vs one of the big teams like ANA or STL. If they manage to sign him out of camp he'll be a welcome depth addition to the club.
Douglas Murray can be handy in the a 2nd round series vs one of the big teams like ANA or STL. If they manage to sign him out of camp he'll be a welcome depth addition to the club.
Yikes. Douglas Murray vs Anaheim is a nightmare for me (and a lot of Flames fans I'll warrant).
Douglas Murray can be handy in the a 2nd round series vs one of the big teams like ANA or STL. If they manage to sign him out of camp he'll be a welcome depth addition to the club.
Anyone know what Murray's situation with Köln in the DEL was last year? He only played 8 games. Did he sign late in the season with them? Was he scratched a lot or released early on?
