Trading for Patrick Kane

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by dying4acup

So. How about them BLUEJAYS?

Jays have looked amazing since trade deadline. I think they win the division and could even make some noise in the post season.

[Mass_nerder]

Are you suggesting we trade johnny for Kane?
We would have to add, but I also don't really understand why we would do that.
Gaudreau might not be the same level of player that kane is (yet?), but he's much cheaper for the foreseeable future, he's 5 years younger, and he has proven chemistry with at least one of our other top young players, which will most likely grow as they get older.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Poe969

So the guy with "character issues" who's won 3 cups doesn't belong on the team that hasn't won a cup in over 20 years. Not that I want him on the Flames but the character thing does get blown out of proportion at times. I like the way the team is coming together but who knows how Kane would do on the team. He may be a great hockey guy who's awesome and a leader but is just an idiot when it comes to the outside world not related to hockey and he makes bad decisions.

So in other words, you think he has character issues?

[Enoch Root]

Kane is an elite offensive player. No question.

But he also costs $10.5M per year for the next 8 years.

He will be in his 30s for half of that contract (and 34 in the final year).

With that contract, there is no way a team gives up a young emerging star like Gaudreau for him.

(and that is ignoring his baggage)

[jar_e]

To be fair to the OP, there's been a fair bit of media traction on it, including Mark Lazerus (arguably the best Blackhawks reporter) speculating it may be an option:

http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/7...g-patrick-kane

Marian Hossa had just had one of his typical games — a couple of goals, some stellar defense, another victory. When a few reporters descended on his stall in the visitors’ locker room in Dallas that November night, Hossa instinctively reached back for his Blackhawks hat. It wasn’t there. He looked around for a moment, then sheepishly apologized and scurried off to another room before re-emerging with a hat on his head. The future Hall of Famer didn’t want to get scolded.

Team rules, you know. All players must wear Hawks shirts and hats during postgame interviews.

There probably isn’t a more image-conscious team in the NHL, if not all of professional sports, than the Blackhawks. John McDonough didn’t just help turn the Hawks into a force on the ice, he turned them into a well-oiled public-relations machine. They work in the community. They sign autographs for fans. They do loads of charity work. They tweet out pictures of their adorable kids. They smile for the camera and always say the right thing. It might make for mundane copy sometimes, but it’s made the Hawks a near-universally admired and respected team around the league, and a beloved one in Chicago.

Simply put, the Hawks are the model franchise, on and off the ice.

Which is why Patrick Kane might be done in Chicago. And why maybe he should be.

[CaptainCrunch]

chicago's 1st and Kane for Calgary's second and all of our cap mistakes including an option for them to take 2 more of our choosing in the next three years.

So basically The Hawks first and Kane for Calgary's 2nd + Jones + Raymond + Bollig + Smid +



x 2

Seriously though, if the Hawks wanted to move Kane, if he's cleared of this nonsense, they would want the Flames to gut their roster of young good prospects and roster players to get him.

No thanks, he's good, but with that contract he's the juice that ain't worth the squeeze.

[SofaProfessor]

If Kane is cleared of any wrong doing, why would the Hawks want to trade him?

If he is found guilty, why would any team trade for him?

This thread is bad.

[The Yen Man]

To be honest, even if Kane didn't have all the off ice issues, I don't think it's in Calgary's best interest to trade for him, not at the stage where the Flames are at. Kane is an elite offensive winger, but he is not a guy you build a team around. The fact that a winger takes up 10.5M of your cap, plus the price would likely be 2 of Bennett/Monahan/Gaudreau, I would not do the trade.

Flames should stay the course, and not trade for any high priced talent. The age / cap hit doesn't fit with the Flames current timelines IMO.

[Vinny01]

If the Hawks cut bait with Kane I can already see him in a Panthers jersey

[Caged Great]

The only time you make big trades is if it fits in one of two categories

1) You pilfer an up and coming talent for less than what their market value should be - See Dougie Hamilton

2) You're close to winning a cup and you feel you're one piece away.

The Flames are not there yet for the 2nd category. Soon, perhaps, but not yet. I don't think even if it were time that Kane would be the best choice. If I was going to throw assets as someone that's a star on another team, Stamkos would be my first choice.

[Dr. Doom]

Well he did just get traded in my fantasy pool...

[FlamesAddiction]

Considering the importance the Flames put on character, there is no way we even entertain the thought. Then considering that the cap hit would ensure that we lose some of our young core soon, it just makes zero sense.

It might make sense for another team, but not us.

[Jacks]

It's a shame about the whole criminal charges, huge contract, immaturity, whatever else issues. Could you imagine a Johnny - Mony - Kane or Johnny - Sam - Kane line? Yikes.

[FlameZilla]

Do you honestly think Brad Treliving & Bob Hartley would approve of having an arrogant, violent, alleged rapist blowhard influencing their immaculately professional & polite core of young talent?

Never mind the cap hit. Never mind the cost to acquire. Does this guy fit in with the new Calgary Flames ethos? Hell f%#€ing no.

[Resolute 14]

Even if you put aside his personal problems entirely, you stay the hell away from Kane.

Look at what the Blackhawks are having to do to fit him and Toews under their cap. You bring Kane here, and you are kissing multiple out of Giordano, Hamilton, Brodie, Gaudreau, Monahan and Bennett goodbye, because you can't afford them all.

And notwithstanding Kane's obvious talent, that just makes this team worse.

Pass. Pass. Pass.

[Lanny'sDaMan]

This thread can only deserve the following as a response.

Spoiler!

They both make exactly the same amount of sense to a sane and functioning entity.

[Kobasew7]

The most likely outcome of all of this is no criminal charges and a settlement out of court. It's a suspension from the NHL that could ruin his season.

Chicago warned him supposedly before if he had another issue he would be done there, I wouldn't be shocked to see a smaller suspension from the NHL (10 game range) and Kane being dealt to somewhere like Arizona or Florida.

[btimbit]

I am prepared to offer 2 of Ladislav Smid, Mason Raymond, Deryk Engelland and Brandon Bollig.

Eat your heart out, Blackhawks

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Confused, are we talking about Patrick Kane or Jesus Really?

I'd trade for him. Looks good.

[smiggy77]

I don't know what is better...the responses to nonsense threads or Jesus Really's cap hit. So much value at that cap hit.