Corey Pronman's Top 100 Prospects

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by flameswin

Holy crap New Era, Ricardodw is being completely ridiculous and deserves to be called out for his goofy mocking of "CP" (we're all one poster if you weren't aware) and yet you come in and somehow up the ridiculousness by not even catching why he's being ridiculous.

This is a huge fail thread and everyone should feel shame. Everybody disembark the fail thread and try again somewhere else, there is no more fail available to capture here, folks. It's all gone.

Yep you topped the fail thread flameswin!!! Congratulations....


I was not mocking CP as a group....

I was mocking Pronman ranking Kylington so very much ridiculously higher than his current potential allows.


Pronman has him ranked a lot higher than Poirier Only 7 CP people had Kylington picked as our 2nd best prospect.... 133 had Poirier.

So other than: dammage79, Jiggy_12, keenan87, Red Menace, Seitse, VladtheImpaler, Vox

I am able to speak for CP as a whole (about 350 voters) that we think Poirier (or someone else) is a much better prospect than Kylington. Only 13 think he is a better prospect than Gillies.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Yep you topped the fail thread flameswin!!! Congratulations....


I was not mocking CP as a group....

I was mocking Pronman ranking Kylington so very much ridiculously higher than his current potential allows.


Pronman has him ranked a lot higher than Poirier Only 7 CP people had Kylington picked as our 2nd best prospect.... 133 had Poirier.

So other than: dammage79, Jiggy_12, keenan87, Red Menace, Seitse, VladtheImpaler, Vox

I am able to speak for CP as a whole (about 350 voters) that we think Poirier (or someone else) is a much better prospect than Kylington. Only 13 think he is a better prospect than Gillies.

My guess is Kylington will be the #1 ranked prospect after this next season. If not for Sam Bennett I'd have ranked Kylington #1. There's simply too much talent in that kid to deny his proper rank amongst the rest of the Flames stable.
His deficiencies are ones that can be fixed by good developmental coaching. His skill, speed and talent cannot. And there really is no one else like him in the system. Treliving seems to think so.

Just watch, one full healthy season in NA for Kylington and the CP "collective" will be singing a whole different tune when it comes to the next summer prospect poll.

I love the fact the Pronman recognizes that one injury plagued season does not ruin a kids career. I usually disagree with the guy on a regular basis but for once I like that he shares my belief for the right reasons.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by flameswin

Holy crap New Era, Ricardodw is being completely ridiculous and deserves to be called out for his goofy mocking of "CP" (we're all one poster if you weren't aware) and yet you come in and somehow up the ridiculousness by not even catching why he's being ridiculous.

This is a huge fail thread and everyone should feel shame. Everybody disembark the fail thread and try again somewhere else, there is no more fail available to capture here, folks. It's all gone.

Yup, completely missed it. I feel shame. So should the others that missed it too.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by dammage79

My guess is Kylington will be the #1 ranked prospect after this next season. If not for Sam Bennett I'd have ranked Kylington #1. There's simply too much talent in that kid to deny his proper rank amongst the rest of the Flames stable.
His deficiencies are ones that can be fixed by good developmental coaching. His skill, speed and talent cannot. And there really is no one else like him in the system. Treliving seems to think so.

Just watch, one full healthy season in NA for Kylington and the CP "collective" will be singing a whole different tune when it comes to the next summer prospect poll.

I love the fact the Pronman recognizes that one injury plagued season does not ruin a kids career. I usually disagree with the guy on a regular basis but for once I like that he shares my belief for the right reasons.

I'm with you; I'm getting a Karlsson 2.0 vibe off this kid. He has his offensive game already. Surely the Flames can teach him to be decent defensively (assuming he's at all coachable). Of course, I could be delusional.

[simmer2]

Can anyone post the full list?

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by simmer2

Can anyone post the full list?

No, I don't think he'd appreciate that

[Hugh Jahrmes]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Reinhart is 3 and Marner 4

Lowe and MacT make eye contact, synchronized fist pumps while jumping in the air and clicking their heels together.

Nobody tells them it's not Griffin, even ChiaPet doesn't have the heart to tell them.

[Hugh Jahrmes]

Lotsa folks getting too wrapped up in one man's list. Think about how many moving pieces are involved here.. Siphoning your list down to 100, Seeing all of these guys play enough to actually form intelligent (sounding) breakdowns and rankings for them.

Not being able to see guys head to head is a massive roadblock, especially when you add variables like age/years of experience, quality of systems they're both playing and being deceloped in, personal preference for how insidiously qualities are weighted to come up with his "ideal" player.. Hell, the QoC and many other factors between all of these developmental leagues are all over the map.

I just like seeing some Flames names on the list, enjoy seeing what some of our nemesis' teams have moving forward, and maybe start a list of names to start spitballing around in proposals seeing as we have some extremely valuable assets that some feel we may not retain.

Cool list

[darthma]

Pronman is legit, so his list is worth discussing. It's nice to see some Flames prospects on the list!

I did a bit of googling, and found Vancouver's prospects that made the list:
27. Virtanen
69. Brock Boeser
74. Hunter Shinkaruk

This made me happy when you compare it to our list.
5. Sam Bennett
35. Oliver Kylington
63. Emile Poirier
85. Brandon Hickey

Also note that he has Poirier on the list above Shinkaruk. hehe

[Ashasx]

I'm surprised Shinkaruk is even still on the list.

[RyZ]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

I'm surprised Shinkaruk is even still on the list.

Agreed. If Shinkaruk doesnt double his production in the AHL next season he moves closer to the "complete bust" side rather than even the "fringe prospect" side that he currently occupies. He's a player that squarely fits the mould of top 6 or nothing.

[dustygoon]

Shinkaruk above Hickey is also funny. BT was heard saying he was getting a lot of inbound trade interest from other GM's on Hickey. How many calls does Benning get on Shinkaruk? Other than Shinkaruks agent.

[neo45]

Why does this forum care so much about Shinkaruk? We chose not to draft him, it's not like he slighted the team. He gets mentioned like he is Tim Erixon in every prospects thread



Virtanen was a way worse pick given the circumstances

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by neo45

Why does this forum care so much about Shinkaruk?

Because...

A: He was once highly touted to the extent that he was thought to potentially be a top 10 pick,

B: He was a local kid,

C: He was drafted right after Poirier...

D: ... By a rival organization

That Poirier was something of an unknown (and considered a reach by some at the time) adds to it as well. A lot of people thought at the time that Feaster (and by extention the Flames) had made a blunder by not taking Shinkaruk. They didn't.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by neo45

Why does this forum care so much about Shinkaruk? We chose not to draft him, it's not like he slighted the team. He gets mentioned like he is Tim Erixon in every prospects thread



Virtanen was a way worse pick given the circumstances

Yea, no way is Virtanen gonna live up to his draft position. He'll play in the NHL, but he won't be the player many thought he would be.

[Fire]

Originally Posted by neo45

Why does this forum care so much about Shinkaruk? We chose not to draft him, it's not like he slighted the team. He gets mentioned like he is Tim Erixon in every prospects thread



Virtanen was a way worse pick given the circumstances

The rumour is that he didn't want to be drafted by the Flames.

[Macho0978]

Can soemone post where the Oilers prospect rank?

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

Can soemone post where the Oilers prospect rank?

1. McDavid
20. Darnell Nurse
56. Griffen Reinhart

[RyZ]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

1. McDavid
20. Darnell Nurse
56. Griffen Reinhart

No Draisaitl?

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by RyZ

No Draisaitl?

Didn't fit the criteria. Too many NHL games played