Ashley Madison (cheating / affair website) hacked

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Muta

Making fake profiles is a sleazy business tactic, and so is paying to remove your profile.... but I don't have anything against the operations of the business itself.

It severs a market that has a demand, whether people like it or not. In that regard, it's really just operating like any other business as a for-profit enterprise, and I have no issues with that. If you want to use their services though, have at 'er. I wouldn't, but if that's the thing that floats your boat, and it's not illegal, why not?

http://archive.freep.com/article/201...egal-21-states

In 21 states, cheating in a marriage is against the law, punishable by a fine or even jail time.

Do you still have no issue with the website? Selling cocaine also serves a market and some people believe that drugs such as cocaine should be legalised.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by polak

This.

Can't fault them for filling a need. Especially if they think marriage is stupid.

This is ridiculous. If people think "marriage is stupid," a) don't get married, b) get a divorce.

Don't betray the trust, physical well-being, and family of a person that may still love you.

Or maybe c) Start thinking about why you are such a worthless, selfish sleazeball that would use a website to cheat on your partner.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

http://archive.freep.com/article/201...egal-21-states



Do you still have no issue with the website? Selling cocaine also serves a market and some people believe that drugs such as cocaine should be legalised.

Don't forget though, that you're also saying that in 29 states, it is legal. So in that sense, it is a legitimate business.

I'm surprised though, cheating is illegal in 21 states. Thank you for sharing, I didn't know that. Why would it be illegal? It's morally reprehensible, but shouldn't be illegal. Would you arrest someone just because he's a ######bag? That's the equivalent of this. I would think this is also a problem with the outdated-ness of state laws more than anything. That law is a relic from an increasingly bygone religious era.

[polak]

Originally Posted by peter12

This is ridiculous. If people think "marriage is stupid," a) don't get married, b) get a divorce.

Don't betray the trust, physical well-being, and family of a person that may still love you.

Or maybe c) Start thinking about why you are such a worthless, selfish sleazeball that would use a website to cheat on your partner.

I'm talking about the people that run the site. Not the user.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Muta

Don't forget though, that you're also saying that in 29 states, it is legal. So in that sense, it is a legitimate business.

I'm surprised though, cheating is illegal in 21 states. Thank you for sharing, I didn't know that. Why would it be illegal? It's morally reprehensible, but shouldn't be illegal. Would you arrest someone just because he's a ######bag? That's the equivalent of this. I would think this is also a problem with the outdated-ness of state laws more than anything. That law is a relic from an increasingly bygone religious era.

I was being a little facetious in the first post.

I'm not sure if it's a religious thing, or an actual legal thing. A state issued marriage is a contract between two people, so if you knowingly and willingly break it (i.e.: cheat) it could be a crime. It does make sense when you think about it.

You should end the contract first, aka divorce, and then go on your merry way screwing around.

[Weitz]

That article also states there is little chance of ever being tried for "adultry".

[PsYcNeT]

People have as much a right to privately betray the trust of their partner as I have in delighting in the delicious schadenfreude of their public outing.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Weitz

That article also states there is little chance of ever being tried for "adultry".

People rarely get charged for possession of weed either unless it's a lot.

[The Ditch]

When you're cheating on someone you're potentially bringing diseases into your relationship that your spouse hasn't consented to and never had/has the chance to know about. It's not only morally disgusting it's also potentially life threatening.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

I'm not sure if it's a religious thing, or an actual legal thing. A state issued marriage is a contract between two people, so if you knowingly and willingly break it (i.e.: cheat) it could be a crime. It does make sense when you think about it.

Perhaps it is seen that way, but the definition of marriage has continually evolved into something more social and something less legal - especially in the 20th and 21st centuries. The fact that it is still recognized as a legally-binding contract held together by 'the emotion of love' is incredibly outdated, since it is incredibly subjective to define what love is, and how it is carried out. Therefore, cheating shouldn't be illegal in this day and age, no matter how morally reprehensible it is.

Devil's advocate: what if married people willingly cheat on each other (swing)? Is the contract now void? Who are we to judge what they define love as?

Originally Posted by CroFlames

You should end the contract first, aka divorce, and then go on your merry way screwing around.

Agree with this. Eliminate the ball and chain before experiencing true freedom; otherwise, you're not truly free.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Muta

Perhaps it is seen that way, but the definition of marriage has continually evolved into something more social and something less legal - especially in the 20th and 21st centuries. The fact that it is still recognized as a legally-binding contract held together by 'the emotion of love' is incredibly outdated, since it is incredibly subjective to define what love is, and how it is carried out. Therefore, cheating shouldn't be illegal in this day and age, no matter how morally reprehensible it is.

Devil's advocate: what if married people willingly cheat on each other (swing)? Is the contract now void? Who are we to judge what they define love as?



Agree with this. Eliminate the ball and chain before experiencing true freedom; otherwise, you're not truly free.

Cheating requires deceit. That's an open marriage.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by The Ditch

When you're cheating on someone you're potentially bringing diseases into your relationship that your spouse hasn't consented to and never had/has the chance to know about. It's not only morally disgusting it's also potentially life threatening.

That's a little overboard I think.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Muta

Perhaps it is seen that way, but the definition of marriage has continually evolved into something more social and something less legal - especially in the 20th and 21st centuries. The fact that it is still recognized as a legally-binding contract held together by 'the emotion of love' is incredibly outdated, since it is incredibly subjective to define what love is, and how it is carried out. Therefore, cheating shouldn't be illegal in this day and age, no matter how morally reprehensible it is.

Devil's advocate: what if married people willingly cheat on each other (swing)? Is the contract now void? Who are we to judge what they define love as?

Agree with this. Eliminate the ball and chain before experiencing true freedom; otherwise, you're not truly free.

I would argue that it is precisely the opposite. In fact, most people view it as a contract with certain legal privileges held together by love. The increasingly subjective view of love is what has led to the changed definition of marriage. From that perspective, cheating is a violation of that contract.

Under this definition, swinging is a viable option given that all it would take is for both parties to agree that this is the nature of their particular marriage contract.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Weitz

That's a little overboard I think.

No, it's not. The fastest growing population with HIV/AIDS is heterosexual women who catch the disease from cheating spouses.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by nik-

Cheating requires deceit. That's an open marriage.

But is the union / contract of marriage not the same regardless?

[Muta]

Originally Posted by peter12

I would argue that it is precisely the opposite. In fact, most people view it as a contract with certain legal privileges held together by love. The increasingly subjective view of love is what has led to the changed definition of marriage. From that perspective, cheating is a violation of that contract.

Under this definition, swinging is a viable option given that all it would take is for both parties to agree that this is the nature of their particular marriage contract.

But love is subjective; it may not mean something to someone in a marriage in the same way it means to the other person. By that scenario, you'd always have a rock-solid defence since there is no official definition of love, or legally set parameters.

[Matata]

How dumb do you have to be to use a site that's an obvious blackmail goldmine? Someone was going to cash in on AM users eventually.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Muta

But is the union / contract of marriage not the same regardless?

There's no standard contract of marriage.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Muta

But love is subjective; it may not mean something to someone in a marriage in the same way it means to the other person. By that scenario, you'd always have a rock-solid defence since there is no official definition of love, or legally set parameters.

We do have legally set parameters. From a contractual view, those parameters are subjectively set by the two (or more) people in that relationship.

[Erick Estrada]

I highly, highly doubt that 11% of Calgarians are Ashley Madison members. That figure has to be totally bogus.