Ontario Sex Ed controversy?

[peter12]

We pay way too much attention to sex today, and not nearly enough time on actually reproducing and raising families.

[Rutuu]

Originally Posted by Thor

This sex ed is the model they are using in most of the Nordic nations, where you have some of the lowest pregnancy and STD rates in the western world.

That has more to do with being boring.

[chid]

I agree parents need to have a strong role in hygiene and sexual education, however most do not have this role, they may have "the talk" Cue to a twelve year old in a principal's office and then the parent wonders what is going on when they are called into the office because their child has been taking dick pics and sending them to kids at school.. Most parents don't realize the amount of sexual behaviour happening at a VERY young age because of technology.
Kids have access to a lot of inappropriate things without most parents' knowledge or understanding of the tech they allow their kids to own. I think a lot of parents need some upgrading in human sexuality lessons as well, there is a lot of great curriculum online to use to have these discussions with your kids, and if a parent is uncomfortable that is when a teacher can do it.
Parents are allowed to withdraw their child from the curriculum at school for any reason they choose, and some of them do because they've already done it at home.

[bigtmac19]

The average age that a child has seen some form of online porn is 11. It's a different world and the more children know of real facts the better off they are. These parents need to wake up. I can't believe the ridiculous stories some of these parent groups have been spreading. They have blown this out of all proportion.

[Thor]

Originally Posted by Rutuu

That has more to do with being boring.

lol then you don't know Nordic nations

This quote from the article says it best IMO

"Proponents of the Dutch model argue that their approach extends beyond those risks. Their brand of sex ed reflects a broader emphasis on young people’s rights, responsibility and respect that many public health experts say is the foundation of sexual health.

Sadly my memories of sex ed in junior high was when the teacher read an anonymous note asking about foreskin, a friend of mine yelled out "THORSKIN!" and that nickname stuck til this day.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Thor

Sadly my memories of sex ed in junior high was when the teacher read an anonymous note asking about foreskin, a friend of mine yelled out "THORSKIN!" and that nickname stuck til this day.

Holy Hell, that made me laugh.



THORSKIN!!!!!

[Thor]

lol it was a pretty memorable moment, too bad it couldn't have been Thorplay, Thorsome, ThorG

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Thor

lol it was a pretty memorable moment, too bad it couldn't have been Thorplay, Thorsome, ThorG

Cuz the junior high brain, my brain, doesn't work like that.


THORSKIN!!!

[Puppet Guy]

Originally Posted by Thor

lol it was a pretty memorable moment, too bad it couldn't have been Thorplay, Thorsome, ThorG

Thorgasm?

[Coach]

Thorifice.

Is your name actually Thor? Because that is supremely bad ass.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Thorifice.

Is your name actually Thor? Because that is supremely bad ass.

Yes. I can attest to the fact that it actually is.

And it is badass. Supremely so.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Between Thorskin and Asshandler, I think the parentsalliance.org might be on to us!

[FlamesAddiction]

I guess this is still going on:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...ulum-1.3220454

Farina Siddiqui, a mother of three, appeared on CBC's Metro Morning on Wednesday, one day after nearly 700 students stayed out of Thorncliffe Park public school to protest the new sex-ed curriculum.

About half the school's population did not attend school Tuesday and instead took part in a protest against the new curriculum. Thorncliffe Park has a large immigrant population and new Canadians with conservative or strong faith-based backgrounds have been among the most vocal critics of the province's new plan.

Teaching of the new curriculum begins this year. It's the first time the sex-education curriculum has been updated since 1998, and includes:

• Students in Grade 1 will be taught the correct names of body parts.
• By Grade 2, they will learn about the broad concept of consent.
• By Grades 4 and 5, students will learn about puberty, while education about intercourse will take place the following year.
• Masturbation and "gender expression" will be taught in Grade 6.
• Students in Grades 7 and 8 will discuss contraception, anal and oral sex, preventing pregnancy and sexually transmitted infections.

I have to wonder if 12 years old might be too young to teach them about anal and oral. I'm not opposed to the curriculum, but that part does give me some pause.

[polak]

They will learn about it from TV and the internet. Might as well have them learn about it from Schools cause there is no way you're stopping it.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I guess this is still going on:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...ulum-1.3220454

I have to wonder if 12 years old might be too young to teach them about anal and oral. I'm not opposed to the curriculum, but that part does give me some pause.

There is definitely no perfect system. But I think kids as young as 13 and 14 start engaging in oral if not actual sex. Education that young is a good thing if many of them are experimenting shortly thereafter. Better to know the risks and consequences of the action before they engage in it.

I've heard grown-ups saying the most preposterous uneducated things about sexual interaction. So education is definitely a must. (For context, things like "don't worry, if the girl's on top, she can't get pregnant")

Although I do agree on the surface that seems really young to be teaching things like that. Not an easy subject.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Thor

lol then you don't know Nordic nations

This quote from the article says it best IMO



Sadly my memories of sex ed in junior high was when the teacher read an anonymous note asking about foreskin, a friend of mine yelled out "THORSKIN!" and that nickname stuck til this day.

We can call you Thorskin from now on right? It's because we love you.

Just like in Last Vegas they call each other prick and #######.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by polak

They will learn about it from TV and the internet. Might as well have them learn about it from Schools cause there is no way you're stopping it.

Just to play devil's advocate, you can learn a lot more than that on the internet. How do you decide where to draw the line? Anal sex is a go, but scissoring and tea bagging is off limits?

[polak]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Just to play devil's advocate, you can learn a lot more than that on the internet. How do you decide where to draw the line? Anal sex is a go, but scissoring and tea bagging is off limits?

What's their to teach about tea bagging? You don't need to teach details and different methods.

Teach them that anal sex isn't safe sex. Don't teach them about fisting your butthole.

Teach them about the risks of oral (lol worth it) and not about all the gross stuff you can do with the aftermath.

[corporatejay]

Actual I think Anal, while obviously prevents pregnancy doesn't it put people at a way way higher risk of STIs?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by polak

What's their to teach about tea bagging? You don't need to teach details and different methods.

Teach them that anal sex isn't safe sex. Don't teach them about fisting your butthole.

Teach them about the risks of oral (lol worth it) and not about all the gross stuff you can do with the aftermath.

What you are saying is pretty much the same thing that the parents opposed to the curriculum are saying. You are just disagreeing on where the line should be. What is and isn't gross is subjective and you know that as soon as the topics come up, they will be Googling all aspects of it after school. Teaching them about it in class won't stop them from being exposed to the nastier things as well.

Personally, I have a pretty high tolerance for things sexual, but I see the other argument as well. As a citizen, sometimes you have to trust the system so I don't agree with the parents for holding their kids out of school, but I think they have a right to make their feeling heard.