I would imagine at some point. Hopefully they at least grandfather them in so I can drive my car for life if I so choose. I don't care if other people don't want to drive, but there are many of us that still do (but I'm also one of those crotchety types that think that if your car is an automatic, you're not really driving anyway).
Admittedly I'd be upset if I lost the ability to drive outside the city completely but for city driving and commuting? Sign me up today.
I am curious as to what the plan would be if there was some sort of catastrophic failure with the computer and sensors that drive the car?
Say we replace all of deerfoot traffic with self-driving cars. It only takes one failure in one car to cause a big accident. Are we going to expect people to be paying attention at all times and take over? That's not going to happen. Hell first thing I do with my self driving car is go pub hopping!
I am curious as to what the plan would be if there was some sort of catastrophic failure with the computer and sensors that drive the car?
Say we replace all of deerfoot traffic with self-driving cars. It only takes one failure in one car to cause a big accident. Are we going to expect people to be paying attention at all times and take over? That's not going to happen. Hell first thing I do with my self driving car is go pub hopping!
Wait, what's the scenario again? If the computer shuts down in one car or SkyNet shuts down all cars at once?
From the sounds of it the guy driving the car thought he had a pedestrian detection feature in his car. He thought that the car would detect the people in front and the system would take over and stop the car.
According to Volvo, that particular car did not have the pedestrian detection system installed. It costs an extra $3000.
The pedestrian avoidance feature would probably be an additional $5000 on top of that.
Why does it need pedestrian detection though? I would think the most basic feature of a self-driving car would be an 'anything-directly-in-front-of-the-car-detector'.
I would imagine at some point. Hopefully they at least grandfather them in so I can drive my car for life if I so choose. I don't care if other people don't want to drive, but there are many of us that still do (but I'm also one of those crotchety types that think that if your car is an automatic, you're not really driving anyway).
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you should be in luck. I mean, Google's car has been in human driving traffic the entire time. There should be no issue having some people in self-driving mode and some in manual driving mode.
I am curious as to what the plan would be if there was some sort of catastrophic failure with the computer and sensors that drive the car?
Say we replace all of deerfoot traffic with self-driving cars. It only takes one failure in one car to cause a big accident. Are we going to expect people to be paying attention at all times and take over? That's not going to happen. Hell first thing I do with my self driving car is go pub hopping!
Why would it take one failure in one car to cause a big accident?
Assuming all the other cars are still working fine, they can avoid the rogue car with much better reflexes and much better control than a human driver.
So you'll have a single car accident. Let's assume that at least SOME of the sensors work, and the car begins to figure out something is wrong, and there are redundant emergency systems. (eg. In a plane, even though your airspeed sensor fails, leading to your autopilot failing, you still have other independent sensors that can tell you you're about to crash and to correct for it.) The car might even be able to sort out its own emergency.
Even if it happens to be an accident - and it happens once a month. It sounds like a drastic improvement over what Deerfoot is like right now.
Wait, what's the scenario again? If the computer shuts down in one car or SkyNet shuts down all cars at once?
No the scenario is I'm playing Angry Birds slightly drunk while my google car propells me down Deerfoot at 100 (ugh, boring) and all of the sudden something happens that causes the computer that's driving the car to fail. I don't know what it will be. Maybe the sensors will break or the computer will glitch (My Android can't go a day without freezing so google better step up their game), I don't know, but something goes wrong.
Whats the plan in case that happens? I'm assuming it automatically shuts down? Now I'm stuck in the middle lane of deerfoot with cars zooming by?
The only alternative is that it tries to pull over, which is sketchy since something is already wrong with computer and I don't want it driving me anywhere or it tells the human to take over, which is also brutal as we'd all have to be ready to drive any ways....
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Originally Posted by Regorium
Why would it take one failure in one car to cause a big accident?
Assuming all the other cars are still working fine, they can avoid the rogue car with much better reflexes and much better control than a human driver.
So you'll have a single car accident. Let's assume that at least SOME of the sensors work, and the car begins to figure out something is wrong, and there are redundant emergency systems. (eg. In a plane, even though your airspeed sensor fails, leading to your autopilot failing, you still have other independent sensors that can tell you you're about to crash and to correct for it.) The car might even be able to sort out its own emergency.
Even if it happens to be an accident - and it happens once a month. It sounds like a drastic improvement over what Deerfoot is like right now.
How often does a single car accident involve someone slamming into a median at 100 on deerfoot cause their sensor said one thing and in reality something else was happening.
Face it. Most drivers suck. When they perfect self driving cars, if you still want to drive, you should have to take a test. You fail the test. Sorry, no drivey for you. Here's your self driving car. Problem solved.
I would imagine at some point. Hopefully they at least grandfather them in so I can drive my car for life if I so choose. I don't care if other people don't want to drive, but there are many of us that still do (but I'm also one of those crotchety types that think that if your car is an automatic, you're not really driving anyway).
Thanked for the automatic comment.
Can see your point but I just can't envision a scenario where self-drives are not sold and are outright banned. Self-drives (I'm going British here, sick of typing out self driving cars in full) work perfectly well against regular old clunkers.
What I can see is regular cars costing a lot more to buy and insure however.
No the scenario is I'm playing Angry Birds slightly drunk while my google car propells me down Deerfoot at 100 (ugh, boring) and all of the sudden something happens that causes the computer that's driving the car to fail. I don't know what it will be. Maybe the sensors will break or the computer will glitch (My Android can't go a day without freezing so google better step up their game), I don't know, but something goes wrong.
Whats the plan in case that happens? I'm assuming it automatically shuts down? Now I'm stuck in the middle lane of deerfoot with cars zooming by?
The only alternative is that it tries to pull over, which is sketchy since something is already wrong with computer and I don't want it driving me anywhere or it tells the human to take over, which is also brutal as we'd all have to be ready to drive any ways....
If the rest of the cars were computer operated I'd imagine you'd be much safer. They can detect and maneuver around that obstacle much safer then a panicking human.
It'll be interesting to see how governments and legislation deal with this. Would a sole "operator" be allowed to be drunk in the car?
Face it. Most drivers suck. When they perfect self driving cars, if you still want to drive, you should have to take a test. You fail the test. Sorry, no drivey for you. Here's your self driving car. Problem solved.
A test before you can drive.......HEY HO that is a great idea.
I keep thinking of one aspect. What will happen to the big car manufacturers?
With driving cars, you would no longer need big engine options or things of that nature. Primary just comfort items would be options, such as leather vs cloth. This will no doubt remove the complexity of car manufacturing. Will style even matter at that point, if everyone is driving at the same pace like robots, with their head down in their tablet/book reader? So if cars turn more generic, will the industry be decimated?
