Drouin a healthy scratch (similarities to Burke comments)

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by driveway

Tampa Bay's radical swings up and down the standings have really benefitted them.

2004 they win the Cup, three seasons later (07-08) they're the worst team in the league, draft Stamkos 1st overall. The next season they're even worse but finish 2nd last and get Hedman.

80 points in 2009-10, then in 2010-11 they finish with 46 wins, 103 pts and make the Conference final. They follow that up with 84 point 11-12 and snag Palat in the 7th round, then they have an abysmal 3-11 record in non-OT one-goal-games (2-4 in OT/SO) in 2012-13 and grab Drouin 3rd overall.

They follow the aberrant 12-13 season with 46 wins and 101pts in 13-14 and 50 wins and 108pts in 14-15.

True, but they really hit some late round and undrafted prospect homeruns as well.

They must have some great scouts.

[automaton 3]

Originally Posted by saillias

At the time Monahan seemed like a ho hum pick, no one expected 30 goals as a 20 year old. His offensive upside was questioned and being compared to a Daymond Langkow.

Daymond Langkow was more like his floor. There were also comparisons to Eric Staal, Bergeron and Parise.

[heep223]

Parise? Weird. Don't see that one.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by automaton 3

Daymond Langkow was more like his floor. There were also comparisons to Eric Staal, Bergeron and Parise.

Pretty sure on TSN after he was picked his "Player Comparable" was Toews.

[googol]

Originally Posted by automaton 3

Daymond Langkow was more like his floor. There were also comparisons to Eric Staal, Bergeron and Parise.

Langkow had 77 points with us. If Monahan can reach that, it would be awesome.

[automaton 3]

The Parise comparisons were more about 2 way play iirc. I have seen the Toews comparisons but as much as I like Monahan, those seem a bit lofty. If Monahan does develop to a Toews level, all the better.

I'm not knocking on Langkow one bit, he was a really good player for the Flames and one of my favorites at that time. His career high was 77 points, but for the most part he was a 50-60 point player. Monahan is already there at 20 years old and will hopefully continue to develop.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by googol

Langkow had 77 points with us. If Monahan can reach that, it would be awesome.

I still find it very weird that people think of Langkow like he was a mediocre player

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by T@T

Ho hum? maybe to you and a few others but myself a lot more loved the pick and had him ranked 2nd for forwards behind MacKinnon.

If anyone did their homework they would have seen Monahan ranked 3rd by most outlets going into his draft year with the same amount of points as MacKinnon. He fell because of a bad groin and Ottawa gutted their team of any talent for him to play with.

Monahan was no ho hum but he wasn't considered 2nd either. Going into the draft year he was higher but he then fell in most mocks.

Mackinnon and Drouin were 1-2 in most mocks with Jones being in the conversation as well. It was the Panthers who threw a wrench in most people's predictions when they selected Barkov.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by automaton 3

I have seen the Toews comparisons but as much as I like Monahan, those seem a bit lofty. If Monahan does develop to a Toews level, all the better.

Yeah I see Bennett as more of a Toews comparable and Monahan as Bergeron.

Originally Posted by T@T

If anyone did their homework they would have seen Monahan ranked 3rd by most outlets going into his draft year with the same amount of points as MacKinnon. He fell because of a bad groin and Ottawa gutted their team of any talent for him to play with.

I have to admit I worry that Monahan's groin issues will turn into an ongoing issue in his career. Otherwise the sky is the limit in terms of him turning into a top 2-way center in the NHL who consistently puts up 65-70 pts per year. If not THE top 2-way center in the NHL.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

Monahan was no ho hum but he wasn't considered 2nd either. Going into the draft year he was higher but he then fell in most mocks.

Mackinnon and Drouin were 1-2 in most mocks with Jones being in the conversation as well. It was the Panthers who threw a wrench in most people's predictions when they selected Barkov.

Are you talking after the 12-13 season started? read my post again,the season before his draft year.

Drouin wasn't even in the conversation until the 12-13 season. plenty of scouts had Monahan just behind MacKinnon and Jones.

Adam Mattson of ISS said he loved Mackinnion but wouldn't be shocked at all if Monahan turned out to be the best player in the draft.

Chris Ralph of the hockeywriters.com said:

If either of the top two falters, there are more than a few prospects who are capable of surging up the rankings. Ottawa 67s’ centerman Sean Monahan is at the top of the heap, firmly entrenched as the number three ranked prospect at this point. He is perhaps the most complete player in the draft.

http://thehockeywriters.com/the-next...nary-rankings/

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by T@T

Are you talking after the 12-13 season started? read my post again,the season before his draft year.

Drouin wasn't even in the conversation until the 12-13 season. plenty of scouts had Monahan just behind MacKinnon and Jones.

Adam Mattson of ISS said he loved Mackinnion but wouldn't be shocked at all if Monahan turned out to be the best player in the draft.

Chris Ralph of the hockeywriters.com said:



http://thehockeywriters.com/the-next...nary-rankings/

Yep. Druin was a late riser for sure as he came on strong during his draft year. I remember some in the media just prior to the draft arguing he may be a better prospect than MacKinnon which I always thought was pretty far fetched.