Iginla 7th All Time No Stanley Cup UFA July 1 2017

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Igottago

Its hilarious that people want to attribute the change in team dynamic to some sort of leadership or cultural issues with Iggy. The guy was always a fantastic leader and Gio is pretty much doing the exact same thing now that Iggy did at his best.

The bigger factor for the cultural turnaround of the team is the following:

- New President, GM, and organizational focus on youth
- Good drafting, and picks that can actually step into the league play
- Great coaching.

These are all far greater factors to the team success and they were all out of Iginla's sphere of influence.

Iggy "I do not want to be part of a rebuild"

Sending him packing allowed them to start the youth movement

[SofaProfessor]

If 2017 rolls around and Iggy can still fire the puck then I don't see an issue bringing him in as a bottom 6, PP specialist kinda guy. I don't think he has the speed any more to keep up with the guys in the top 6.

If the price is right and he can still get it done, why not? But I wouldn't want to bring him back solely for that nostalgia trip.

[Roof-Daddy]

Heart says yeah
Head says nope

As much as I would love to see Iggy come back and win a Cup with the Flames, I just don't see Iggy being the Flames best option for either top six or bottom six right wing after a couple more seasons.

I mean, if he is the best option, so be it....but I would hope by then the Flames have better options than a 39/40 year old who's best years will be behind him.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Igottago

Its hilarious that people want to attribute the change in team dynamic to some sort of leadership or cultural issues with Iggy. The guy was always a fantastic leader and Gio is pretty much doing the exact same thing now that Iggy did at his best.

The bigger factor for the cultural turnaround of the team is the following:

- New President, GM, and organizational focus on youth
- Good drafting, and picks that can actually step into the league play
- Great coaching.

These are all far greater factors to the team success and they were all out of Iginla's sphere of influence.

I have to disagree with you on that.

I'm no hater or apologist, I'm just a Flames fan and I will always be grateful to Iggy for everything he did for us, but it was time to move on for everyone.

Iggy became bigger than the club, and I'll agree that he did his best in all aspects of his time here, but that doesnt mean that his best was good enough. And not even necessarily through any fault of his own.

You think Giordano is doing now exactly what he was doing then? Again, I disagree.

Iginla by all accounts was incredibly well respected as a teammate, an athlete and as a leader, but he was also a very passive leader. He lead by example.

Conversely Giordano is a very active leader, do you believe he was exactly as active a leader then when it was Iggy's team as he is now that its his team? I dont believe so. I believe that he stepped up his game in all areas.

I dont mean to throw Iggy under the bus, but during his time, everyone pandered to him and what he needed and as Iginla went so did the team. He didnt ask for that, it just naturally evolved over time. But look at what we have now, we have a team that is greater than the sum of its parts. Instead of everything flowing through Iggy everyone has grabbed an oar and begun rowing.

It was time for the Calgary Flames and Jarome Iginla to mutually, and amicably, part ways.

This is the part of the post where I say something crazy:

Jarome Iginla has been off this team for 2 full seasons and they've been the most entertaining two seasons in this team's history with the exception of the 2004 Cup Run and the team, in its current composition, promises to deliver more than any team Iginla was ever a part of and, with the exception of 2004, already has.

And, if that wasnt crazy enough here I go for round 2: I'm scared that if we bring him back we may lose the magic.

[BigT112]

I could maybe see him doing the Fleury thing, coming in and playing some pre-season games and then retiring before the season. Even that seems unlikely, but it's probably the closest we see Iggy playing for the Flames again.

[dino7c]

if the Flames signed any other 39 year old UFA people would be losing their ####...take the past out of it and it doesn't make any sense.

In fact it could be worse and a major distraction

[VladtheImpaler]

On a 1-day contract so that he can retire as a Flame...

[Cole436]

If he's a viable option and wants to come back, #### yes you bring him back.

Gaudreau-Bennett-Poirier
Ferland-Monahan-Hudler
Bouma-Backlund-Iginla

That is a really strong top 9.

If he comes back for cheap, I think you'd have to be an idiot to say no.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by Locke

You think Giordano is doing now exactly what he was doing then? Again, I disagree.

Iginla by all accounts was incredibly well respected as a teammate, an athlete and as a leader, but he was also a very passive leader. He lead by example.

Conversely Giordano is a very active leader, do you believe he was exactly as active a leader then when it was Iggy's team as he is now that its his team? I dont believe so. I believe that he stepped up his game in all areas.

Its not like Gio is some Mark Messier type yelling at guys on the bench. He seems to have a fairly similar demeanor to when Iggy was as captain, in fact he probably has less of a mean streak than Iggy did on the ice

People have a really selective memory when it comes to what Iginla did as a leader on this team. Whether it was goals, game winning goals, assists, fighting at the right time, protecting teammates, community events, being an ambassador for the team, Iginla did it all and then some, and he did it for years upon years. And he did it as one of the best players of his generation. And he always made players around him better.

Gio is now doing a lot of the same things, and hopefully he continues to, but hall of famer he is not (yet).

I'm not even a proponent of bringing Iginla back but let's not forget what the guy was, and what he meant to the organization. I for one, having watched the Flames for the better part of 30 years, have no hesitation in saying Iginla was the best player to ever wear the sweater (so far), and that includes his leadership. The organization's failures shouldn't be pinned on his shoulders. It was time to move on but that doesn't diminish the quality of player we all got to watch for 16 seasons.

[googol]

Originally Posted by Locke

Jarome Iginla has been off this team for 2 full seasons and they've been the most entertaining two seasons in this team's history with the exception of the 2004 Cup Run and the team, in its current composition, promises to deliver more than any team Iginla was ever a part of and, with the exception of 2004, already has.

And, if that wasnt crazy enough here I go for round 2: I'm scared that if we bring him back we may lose the magic.

Do you automatically think that bringing a player like Iginla would automatically cause the flames to play worse? Having Iginla in the lineup > Mason Raymond.
If he can still maintain his level of play and take a backseat role, there is no reason why the flames shouldn't consider him.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Igottago

Its not like Gio is some Mark Messier type yelling at guys on the bench. He seems to have a fairly similar demeanor to when Iggy was as captain, in fact he probably has less of a mean streak than Iggy did on the ice

People have a really selective memory when it comes to what Iginla did as a leader on this team. Whether it was goals, game winning goals, assists, fighting at the right time, protecting teammates, community events, being an ambassador for the team, Iginla did it all and then some, and he did it for years upon years. And he did it as one of the best players of his generation. And he always made players around him better.

Gio is now doing a lot of the same things, and hopefully he continues to, but hall of famer he is not (yet).

I'm not even a proponent of bringing Iginla back but let's not forget what the guy was, and what he meant to the organization. I for one, having watched the Flames for the better part of 30 years, have no hesitation in saying Iginla was the best player to ever wear the sweater (so far), and that includes his leadership. The organization's failures shouldn't be pinned on his shoulders. It was time to move on but that doesn't diminish the quality of player we all got to watch for 16 seasons.

I agree with all of that.

[Fire in the disco]

Iggy coming back to win a cup here is the dream. The hate for him in this thread is pretty disturbing to me as a life long flames fan in my 30's. Pound for pound he's the greatest player to wear the flaming C. He is certainly beloved in his time here and when we are stacked for a big run in 2 years and we flip out second round pick to the Avs for him it's going to be insane. The Flames deserve another cup and I would be beyond stoked to have Iggy in the lineup that gets us there playing on the third line

[Locke]

Originally Posted by googol

Do you automatically think that bringing a player like Iginla would automatically cause the flames to play worse? Having Iginla in the lineup > Mason Raymond.
If he can still maintain his level of play and take a backseat role, there is no reason why the flames shouldn't consider him.

Yes. You're talking about a 39 year old sniper.

[Huntingwhale]

I'm a huge Iggy fan like all of us are, but the only way I would want him back is if it's the last year of his contract, we're a Cup contender, we're are near the top of the standings at trade deadline, and we manage to get him for something like a 3rd or 4th round pick.

If I was Treliving, it would take a lot of things going right that season for me to even consider bringing him back.

Still have no idea wtf the thread title even means...

[Singularity]

If he'd sign with a discount (since he's going to be on the 3rd, 4th line anyways), I don't see why he cannot return, his tank isn't completely empty. Ryan Smyth did with the oil.

[DoubleK]

Why is this even a thread?

[FlamesFanFromBC]

If Iginla wants a Stanley Cup ring there are better options than the Flames over the next couple years

[Locke]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Why is this even a thread?

Its the off-season. We have no draft lottery win to look forward to and theres a gap in the schedule before the Conference Finals start.

Get used to it.

[browna]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Why is this even a thread?

New here? This is the first in the standard (and oft repeated) CP summer idle thoughts threads. Thankfully this summer is shorter than the last 5.

[Tinordi]

"Hey the team is playing great, we have exciting youth, we made it past the second round, so let's live in the past and yearn for the good ol days watching Iginla play."

Seriously?