What will Giordano's next contract be?

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Stud_McCool

Do people really think Gio will have a higher cap hit than Weber and Doughty? He isn't as young and dominant as these perennial Norris candidates.

[Geeoff]

In this market, he's worth at least $8m

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Stud_McCool

Do people really think Gio will have a higher cap hit than Weber and Doughty? He isn't as young and dominant as these perennial Norris candidates.

Yes.

Doughty was an RFA and Weber signed a 14 year contract but is making $14M this year. They're not comparable.

Gio will be a UFA and the closest comparable because of that would be Suter and he made $11M this year, but has a lower cap hit due to being on a 10 year contract that tails off.

The cap is up since these guys signed and he'd get huge money from Edmonton, Philly and many others. He's not getting less than 5 years (probably more) and certainly not less than $7M. The end of the contract will likely not be nice for the team, but that's the price it will take and Treliving will pay it

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Psytic

7 mill x 5 he gets injured quite a bit. Re-assess again in 5 years.

At the end of a 5 year contract, he'll be 38 years old.

There were only 5 defencemen in the NHL who were 38 or older at the start of this season, and only 3 of them played more than half the season.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Why post a picture of Mr. Bean in response to that?

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Stud_McCool

Do people really think Gio will have a higher cap hit than Weber and Doughty? He isn't as young and dominant as these perennial Norris candidates.

Doughty signed a 56M contract as a 21 year old that made him the second highest paid defenseman at the time. Most of the years were RFA, an extremely important distinction, and he had only 2 good years in the NHL.

Weber signed a $110,000,000 dollar contract that will see him average over 10M a year for the first 9 years of the contract.

Neither are comparable contracts in the slightest.

[Imported_Aussie]

8.5, 8.5, 7.5, 7, 6 = 37.5M 5 year contract @7.5M cap hit
Structure deal so as much money as possible is in signing bonuses as that money doesn't get impacted by escrow.

[CroFlames]

I wouldn't be shocked though if they give him an 8 year deal for less money.

Gio won't have a lot of negotiating power when he's 36 or 37, so he'd be wise to sign the longest possible contract he can.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

I wouldn't be shocked though if they give him an 8 year deal for less money.

Gio won't have a lot of negotiating power when he's 36 or 37, so he'd be wise to sign the longest possible contract he can.

The only reason you'd give an 8 year deal to an aging player is to lower the cap hit for the first 2/3 years. That's not relevant here. Gio won't be playing or certainly not at a high level in 6 years, so why go to 8?

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

The only reason you'd give an 8 year deal to an aging player is to lower the cap hit for the first 2/3 years. That's not relevant here. Gio won't be playing or certainly not at a high level in 6 years, so why go to 8?

I'm not saying the Flames should do it, I was saying I wouldn't be shocked if Gio asks for 8 years, but for less money.

If he signs a 5 year deal now, the likelihood of him getting a 2nd deal here or elsewhere drops substantially when that contract expires. He might be the kind of guy who wants to play until late 30's or have the option of retiring on top, instead of chasing another contract.

[Stud_McCool]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Doughty signed a 56M contract as a 21 year old that made him the second highest paid defenseman at the time. Most of the years were RFA, an extremely important distinction, and he had only 2 good years in the NHL.

Weber signed a $110,000,000 dollar contract that will see him average over 10M a year for the first 9 years of the contract.

Neither are comparable contracts in the slightest.

Whose contract would be more comparable in this landscape?
This is an extension and not a bidding war between multiple teams, so I think the Flames have the upper hand in the negotiations for the time being.

I think a 5 year, $35M extension sounds like a good deal for both sides.

[rain_e]

I really hope it's no more than 6 a year. Anything over that and it could cause trouble in the long run.

[trackercowe]

It we can get both Gio and Brodie locked up for less than 12 total that would be a complete steal imo. Brodie is making 4.65, which means Gio would get 7.35 or less. For those thinking Giordano should be making less than Wideman give your head a shake. He's going to get at least 6.5 a year, that much is a certainty.

[The Fonz]

$9.0
$9.0
$7.5
$6.0
$4.5

5 years @ $7.2M per.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Stud_McCool

Whose contract would be more comparable in this landscape?
This is an extension and not a bidding war between multiple teams, so I think the Flames have the upper hand in the negotiations for the time being.

I think a 5 year, $35M extension sounds like a good deal for both sides.

PK Subban.....and although he is 5 years younger, the situation is similar in that Montreal was buying UFA years which the flames are essentially doing with an extension.

PK is getting 9 AAV for 8....so 8.5 for 5 seems right in line.

Without question he will exceed 7 a year, and he should. That's why 42.5 over 5 is actually a pretty good deal for both sides....its not only fair it will make him the highest paid player in team history.

[GreenLantern]

7.2 on a 6 year deal.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

$9.0
$9.0
$7.5
$6.0
$4.5

5 years @ $7.2M per.

I was going to question a 50% reduced cap hit over the term of the contract but that is the limit.

[Vinny01]

I think 5 years 30 million. Maybe 4 years 26 Million

[Huntingwhale]

5 yrs, 6.5mil cap hit. I'd be happy with that.

[Mister Yamoto]

He doesn't have the resume to be among the highest paid players in the league. I'd be really worried about going a penny over 7x7. Even that could really blow up in the Flames face.

Why does it have to be done this summer? If Giordano want to be payed like a Norris trophy winner he should be given that chance. Let him start the season without an extension. If he is still playing like a Norris candidate in February, then pay him.

But for a guy who will be 32 when next season starts, he just doesn't have the resume that an elite player should have. I wanna see him do it for at lest another half of a season.