Rate These Radical Rule Changes - Revised

[FBI]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Another addition - I'd like to see a 2 minute penalty still occur if a penalty shot is awarded but not scored upon.

Yup or even if the penalty shot is scored, still a PP, double whammy

[stanleycup1989]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

But if the aim of the discussion is to increase scoring, then why not reward teams that take chances, and continue to push when they are in the lead. Much like rewarding teams that lose, but manage to score a set amount of goals.

It would be kind of funny for the Flames to be 1.2 seconds away from losing against Boston, and then score in overtime to have 5 goals for the game and turn 0 points into 3 points just like that.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Three years ago we discuss some rule changes
http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=115685

Some have been implemented (hybrid icing, change ends in overtime) and some have been tosses away (ringette line)

With no player poised to reach 90 point this season (first time since Stan Mikita's 87 points in 66-67), here is my revised list. Again rate each of these (moderate to radical) rule changes from 1 to 5. With 1 being "This is absolutely ######ed" to 5 being "I want to see this tomorrow". And maybe a little explanation why.


1. Put back the red line NO

2. Remove or inverse the trapezoid. Don't Care

3. 3 on 3 overtime Yes

4. Unlimited 4 on 4 overtime (full intermission after 3rd period) NO

5. Eliminate shootout (and replace with what? ties?) NO

6. 5 shooters instead of 3 in the shootout NO

7. 3 points for regulation win Yes

8. Eliminate fighting (game misconduct) YES

9. Larger nets Never

10. Must serve full two minutes when penalized (regardless of # of goals scored) NO

11. Shorthanded team cannot ice the puck. YES

12. Penalty ends when shorthanded goal is scored. maybe

13. Delayed penalty, offending team must exit zone in possession of the puck to stop play test it somewhere, but I'm really not a fan of any rules where you just have to pass the puck to the other team, it just seems too novice to me

14. Abolish over the glass penalty. I've grown to not worry about it so much

15. Team gets extra point for scoring 5 goals or more. Never

16. Eliminate blue lines, must bring puck across red line but once it's across, passes can go anywhere. I like the Blue Line for Entry and the red line for clearing the D zone.

17. Players can ONLY change on the fly not allowed at whistles. Maybe test it

18. Eliminate faceoffs after offsides, just clear the zone and allow the defending to bring puck across their own blue line. I personally wouldn't mind playing that way, but I don't actually think the game needs to speed up that much. I think its already too fast and hard to follow for new fans/casual observers

I will say 17 and 11 could not work together, if they did either the other would instantly become a no go, IMO.

[N-E-B]

1. Put back the red line
[Insert Steve Carrell No GIF here]

2. Remove or inverse the trapezoid.
Indifferent

3. 3 on 3 overtime
Love it.

4. Unlimited 4 on 4 overtime (full intermission after 3rd period)
Unlimited 3 on 3 please

5. Eliminate shootout (and replace with what? ties?)
Yes, eliminate it and play 3 on 3 until there is a goal.

6. 5 shooters instead of 3 in the shootout
No, shootout is long and boring enough as it is.

7. 3 points for regulation win
Eliminate points all together and go with games back like MLB does. Winner take all.

8. Eliminate fighting (game misconduct)
No

9. Larger nets
Rather see smaller goalie equipment.

10. Must serve full two minutes when penalized (regardless of # of goals scored)
Yes

11. Shorthanded team cannot ice the puck.
No

12. Penalty ends when shorthanded goal is scored.
Yes, if you're PP is bad enough to give up a goal it's done.

13. Delayed penalty, offending team must exit zone in possession of the puck to stop play.
No I think the rule is fine as it is.

14. Abolish over the glass penalty.
Unless it's intentionally put over it should not be a penalty.

15. Team gets extra point for scoring 5 goals or more.
No

16. Eliminate blue lines, must bring puck across red line but once it's across, passes can go anywhere.
No

17. Players can ONLY change on the fly not allowed at whistles.
No I like how it is now.

18. Eliminate faceoffs after offsides, just clear the zone and allow the defending to bring puck across their own blue line.
Too much grey area with this one for me.

[AcGold]

I really really like the icing idea. If the defender reaches the hashmarks first the offensive players are all offside until the puck is cleared out of the zone, so much freaking time is spent waiting inbetween icings. If the offensive player is behind the defender and continues to chase him into the corner he gets a penalty or something. I hate icings so much.

[MrMastodonFarm]

The coaches challenge is just terrible.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

The coaches challenge is just terrible.

It should be a 2 min delay of game if the challenge is without merit. Coaches would only use it if they were positive they were right.

[Karl Racki]

Still don't understand why everyone says no to 15. It is one of the only suggestions that doesn't actually change the rules of the game and deals with the real issue which is defensive coaching strategy and systems.... which basically every panelist says is the reason for the lack of scoring (and more importantly, creative play and scoring opportunities). Nope, just reject it outright because it seems weird and soccer.

[Jay Random]

I say no to 15 because teams would exploit it by colluding to score more goals. In extreme cases, I can imagine both coaches agreeing beforehand to play the game with six skaters until they have given up five empty-net goals, and only then put in their goalies. It wouldn't be any crazier than some of the things that have actually happened in the league before.

[Alberta_Beef]

1. Put back the red line No

2. Remove or inverse the trapezoid. No

3. 3 on 3 overtime I hate shootouts, so make it 10 minutes.

4. Unlimited 4 on 4 overtime (full intermission after 3rd period) Will never happen but better than a shootout

5. Eliminate shootout (and replace with what? ties?) ties >>> shootout

6. 5 shooters instead of 3 in the shootout It should have been this from the beginning

7. 3 points for regulation win if they insist on a loser point they need to implement the 3-2-1-0 scoring system

8. Eliminate fighting (game misconduct) No No No

9. Larger nets Depends on how much larger but only after they shrink goaltending equipment

10. Must serve full two minutes when penalized (regardless of # of goals scored) Yes

11. Shorthanded team cannot ice the puck. Yes

12. Penalty ends when shorthanded goal is scored. No

13. Delayed penalty, offending team must exit zone in possession of the puck to stop play. No, but I would make them get full possession

14. Abolish over the glass penalty. No, it was needed because it was being abused

15. Team gets extra point for scoring 5 goals or more. No

16. Eliminate blue lines, must bring puck across red line but once it's across, passes can go anywhere. No

17. Players can ONLY change on the fly not allowed at whistles. No, but I would be okay with a penalized team not being able to make a change

18. Eliminate faceoffs after offsides, just clear the zone and allow the defending to bring puck across their own blue line. No

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

It should be a 2 min delay of game if the challenge is without merit. Coaches would only use it if they were positive they were right.

That would make more sense. I like the challenge because we all want the calls on the ice to be as correct as possible, and when a challenge is proven to be correct it means the correct call is made.

But I also see the downside in that coaches have nothing to lose if they call a challenge after a clearly legal OT goal and it takes 5 minutes to review, in the hopes that some miracle will occur and the goal will be overturned. Or like Hartley has done, call a challenge just so that it acts as an extended time out. I like the 2 minute delay of game if the challenge is overruled.

And while it's not a rule, I'd like to see the posts and crossbar angled inwards so that if a puck hits the post, it is more likely to deflect into the net. So many shots go off the bar and out. But if the NHL wants more goals but is reluctant to change net or equipment size, I think angling the bars inwards will help in that regard.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by stanleycup1989

It would be kind of funny for the Flames to be 1.2 seconds away from losing against Boston, and then score in overtime to have 5 goals for the game and turn 0 points into 3 points just like that.

Sure, why the hell not.

If the league rewards risk taking then maybe teams/players will take more risks.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

And while it's not a rule, I'd like to see the posts and crossbar angled inwards so that if a puck hits the post, it is more likely to deflect into the net. So many shots go off the bar and out. But if the NHL wants more goals but is reluctant to change net or equipment size, I think angling the bars inwards will help in that regard.

I've thought about that too, but wouldn't it give the bars kind of a sharpish edge that would be a little more dangerous?

[GioforPM]

Maybe they should be able to play the puck off the netting.