[News] Flames recall Drew Shore

[Anduril]

Originally Posted by thymebalm

It's a good point. The first one anyway.

I guess the guy is hitting the waiver wire in October just like Baertschi, and maybe he was ready, or almost ready last time, I think I just need someone to better explain the timing of the move, was it a roster space issue that he wasn't up earlier? Glencross in the way?

Giving him a chance to acclimatize to the Flames' system, continue to develop with prime minutes before making the full jump. Shore has been viewed as close as you can get to making the team both here and Florida but just needed an opportunity. Since the other 3 players can still be sent to the AHL next year, they'll have a bit of a investment in wanting to compete in the AHL playoffs.
Shore is going to be on the main team or on waivers come October so may as well stick him for the rest of the season with the big club to give him the best chance to stay. As such, the recall prior to the deadline saves one of the 4 nonemergency callups.

[GioforPM]

When the Flames got his guy most of the commentary was that he was NHL ready but blocked where he was. The Flames sent him down to preserve his status, but it makes sense to call him up now. And we shall see what he has to offer.

In his one game I thought he looked OK, and that was in limited service.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

When the Flames got his guy most of the commentary was that he was NHL ready but blocked where he was. The Flames sent him down to preserve his status, but it makes sense to call him up now. And we shall see what he has to offer.

In his one game I thought he looked OK, and that was in limited service.

I thought he shore did aswell

I couldn't help it.

[Wastedyouth]

It will be nice to see Shore in the NHL. He is quite good on the puck possession side.

[gargamel]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Too many vets, no young guys are gonna get a chance this year.

Yeah, people who thought that us signing guys like Raymond would ensure that Baertschi would never succeed in Calgary were clearly out to lunch.

Edit: Sorry for the thread derail. I should have ignored the bait.

[nemanja2306]

Originally Posted by gargamel

Yeah, people who thought that us signing guys like Raymond would ensure that Baertschi would never succeed in Calgary were clearly out to lunch.

Yeah, because Raymond was the reason Baertchi failed here.

Funny how that didn't affect Jooris or Gaudreau.

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by gargamel

Yeah, people who thought that us signing guys like Raymond would ensure that Baertschi would never succeed in Calgary were clearly out to lunch.

You can't blame Mason Raymond for Baertschi's issues. There are a bunch of young players, including multiple rookies that made our team.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by nemanja2306

Yeah, because Raymond was the reason Baertchi failed here.

Funny how that didn't affect Jooris or Gaudreau.

Bringing Raymond in reduced the LWs spot in training camp to ONE and filled the other three with Glencross, Bollig and Raymond - none of whom should be part of the long term plan.

Gaudreau took that spot from Sven, but that shouldn't be an indictment on Sven as Johnny is nearly a PPG.

Jooris is a right side guy and a center, so I'm not sure what he's got to do with Sven. He took his spot from Setoguchi.

[GettinIggyWithIt]

Originally Posted by gargamel

Yeah, people who thought that us signing guys like Raymond would ensure that Baertschi would never succeed in Calgary were clearly out to lunch.

The way Raymond was playing, if Baertschi couldn't beat him out for a spot, then he didn't deserve one. I really liked Baerstchi and I was hoping he would succeed in Calgary but he could never really put it all together. We'll see how he does in Vancouver but he reminds me of Dustin Boyd in that he doesn't seem to be able to fight through the physical part of the game and isn't slick enough (like Gaudreau, or Kane) to avoid it all together. That's going to be tough in the Pacific division.

EDIT - I can't believe I got baited into talking about Baertschi in a Drew Shore thread...shame on me....

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by GettinIggyWithIt

The way Raymond was playing, if Baertschi couldn't beat him out for a spot, then he didn't deserve one.

That's rich. Raymond is on a 3-year 3 million dollar contract and was getting heavy 2nd/3rd line/PP minutes through his struggles, while Baertschi (and Shore, and Wolf) were not given much opportunity at all, regardless of how they played they were healthy scratched in favor of Bollig and Granlund and Raymond.

And no, Granlund hasn't been playing well either. he's been brutal since November. I'm ecstatic that he was finally sent back down and Shore brought back up, because Shore is a much better player from what I've seen. But if Granlund were on a 3mil/3year contract Shore would have been requesting a trade too. Hell, he probably did ask out of Florida - let's not pretend he's necessarily a saint.

[442scotty]

Maybe Sven did the baby flames a favor... He shook the tree and has management thinking... Maybe we need to give these guys a good look cause we don't want them bailing... They say that you cant overcook someone in the AHL but I think you can.. You have to start giving these guys a DECENT opportunity or they will want to move on... Time for Shore, Ferland and Poirier to get an extended opportunity..

Granlund had a lengthy shot at it and either isn't going to be good enough or needs more time in the AHL. Give as many young guys as you can until the end of the season to learn and grow in the big show. We have enough vets that are not part of the future and don't bring enough to the table. Let them sit in the stands.

Hope Shore plays lots with good linemates until the season ends.

[Robo]

Originally Posted by 442scotty

Maybe Sven did the baby flames a favor... He shook the tree and has management thinking... Maybe we need to give these guys a good look cause we don't want them bailing... They say that you cant overcook someone in the AHL but I think you can.. You have to start giving these guys a DECENT opportunity or they will want to move on... Time for Shore, Ferland and Poirier to get an extended opportunity..

Granlund had a lengthy shot at it and either isn't going to be good enough or needs more time in the AHL. Give as many young guys as you can until the end of the season to learn and grow in the big show. We have enough vets that are not part of the future and don't bring enough to the table. Let them sit in the stands.

Hope Shore plays lots with good linemates until the season ends.

Who have they not given a shot this year besides Sven? And if the rumors are true that he asked for a trade a while back why would they give Sven another chance on our nhl team anyways? Most prospects understand what it takes to play in the NHL Sven doesn't he isn't ready to be a full time NHL'er he just thinks he is.

[Anduril]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

But if Granlund were on a 3mil/3year contract Shore would have been requesting a trade too. Hell, he probably did ask out of Florida - let's not pretend he's necessarily a saint.

And where's the evidence to go on this? As far as I can see from media and other Panthers fans, they wanted to do Shore a solid by trading him somewhere where he could get a chance to make the roster given the lack of opportunities there as Shore bounced up and down. I could easily just say that's the kind of attitude Baerstchi should have had but doesn't really matter about that.

[Vinny01]

Some of the theories in here are out to lunch. The flame shave played their kids a ton the last 2 years and rookies have made the team in both seasons. If anything Sven has that Oileresque sense of entitlement which is not fully his fault. Much of that was due to his call up and the fact he was the first impressive prospect this team had in ages during an era of being a team that was old and didn't have any prospects.

[wingmaker]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

That's rich. Raymond is on a 3-year 3 million dollar contract and was getting heavy 2nd/3rd line/PP minutes through his struggles, while Baertschi (and Shore, and Wolf) were not given much opportunity at all, regardless of how they played they were healthy scratched in favor of Bollig and Granlund and Raymond.

And no, Granlund hasn't been playing well either. he's been brutal since November. I'm ecstatic that he was finally sent back down and Shore brought back up, because Shore is a much better player from what I've seen. But if Granlund were on a 3mil/3year contract Shore would have been requesting a trade too. Hell, he probably did ask out of Florida - let's not pretend he's necessarily a saint.

Raymond was injured for much of the first half of the year. So it really is fiction to suggest he is the reason Baertschi never stuck with the team. You can't blame a vet for keeping a young player off the team when he isn't even on the roster.

[dissentowner]

Geez, I clicked this thread to read about Drew Shore but got Sven Baertschi instead.

[Fire]

Originally Posted by wingmaker

Raymond was injured for much of the first half of the year. So it really is fiction to suggest he is the reason Baertschi never stuck with the team. You can't blame a vet for keeping a young player off the team when he isn't even on the roster.

No kidding, plus Raymond was a healthy scratch multiple times. Hartley wasn't gifting him any minutes. Sven fans will need to come to terms that the blame has to be 90% on Sven and not come up with all these excuses for him.

[mikephoen]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Geez, I clicked this thread to read about Drew Shore but got Sven Baertschi instead.

Don't worry, the end of Sven baertschi taking over threads is drawing near! Once he hits waivers (and goes unclaimed) next year in Vancouver, that should be about it.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Interested in seeing what Drew Shore brings to the team.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Robo

Who have they not given a shot this year besides Sven?

Wolf
Wotherspoon
Arnold