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Old 01-14-2015, 12:17 AM   #41
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Was there someone else in the truck? Kept seeing movement.

Geezus, what a #####e situation all around. Poor cop.
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Old 01-14-2015, 12:44 AM   #42
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Old 01-14-2015, 01:05 AM   #43
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Old 01-14-2015, 01:17 AM   #44
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That was extremely hard to listen to..
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Old 01-14-2015, 01:24 AM   #45
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If this is what I think it is, then nope...no ####in way. I watched this once years ago and I will never watch it again. The screams are soul crushing and will haunt you.
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Old 01-14-2015, 02:58 AM   #46
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Was there someone else in the truck? Kept seeing movement.

Geezus, what a #####e situation all around. Poor cop.
It's his dog.
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Old 01-14-2015, 08:28 AM   #47
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Ah. Thanks for the clarification. I was viewing on a tiny little phone screen - hard to make out.
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Old 01-14-2015, 08:42 AM   #48
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Great, we send a man to fight in a war that returns him home a broken man mentally. He has an episode which kills a brave officer of the law, a disgusting tragedy.

So the response to this is to kill the man, we sent to a war, that then returned him damaged and probably didn't give him the resources to get well, like so many of our returning veterans, return them home and forget about them.

I just don't get the death penalty lovers, you take a tragedy like this and make it worse by also killing the soldier.

Everyone loves to support the troops, soon as they get home and have complex mental health issues, PTSD and a host of other health issues we like to forget about them and when something like this happens some here cheer on his execution by the state like this is a good thing.

Very sad.
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In none of the stories about this case does the killer express one bit of remorse, except for himself, and he had decades in which to do it, PTSD or not. I don't know if it would have made any difference in the end, but he could definitely have helped his case somewhat. The rabid dog comparison would seem to apply.
No, in fact he apparently laughed in court about how foolish and inexperienced the officer was. He said that he expected to be killed and was surprised at how easy the officer rolled over. It was pretty cold.

I guess last night he did offer condolences to the family before he was executed, but at that point it is pretty much meaningless.

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Did he deserve the death sentence? I would say yes. The only other realistic option, IMO, would have him locked up under close surveillance 24/7, medicated, placated, and just allowed to live in monotonous captivity for the rest of his life. I have a hard time deciding which option is more humane for people that simply cannot get better. When you have 100% PTSD disablement and bipolar disorder, there just isn't a lot of help available for you. Certainly not enough to promise you any type freedom or independence ever again. Which begs the question: is life without freedom or independence worth living? Is it preferable to death? I've never experienced mental illness or captive living, thank God, but I can't imagine that would be an enjoyable existence.
He was pleading for clemency right up to the 11th hour, so I guess he thought that is was worth living. It seems rare that inmates on death row don't try to pull all the stops to save their own lives.

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Well in this case the guy takes 2.4 seconds to completely pull a rifle from the truck after he has his hands on it.. sorry but as soon the rifle butt is shown I would cap his ass.
Obviously it is hard to know how anyone would react in that situation, but it does seem like this unfortunate officer was gripped by fear the whole time. He had his hand on his weapon early, so it seems like he realized that things were about to get crazy, but seemed really reluctant to do anything else. In my opinion, once the perp went into his truck and started digging around, the officer would have been justified in using any force needed to incapacitate him.

Even during the trial, the murderer talked about how he was surprised at how little the officer did to try to stop him. It was like sending a lamb to the slaughter.

After watching this video though, I can certainly understand why police have little tolerance for non-compliance. One second someone is acting like a jackass, and the next they are shooting at you....

I am also surprised that someone can become a police officer as young as 19 years old. I thought there would be at least 3 or 4 years of training.
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Old 01-14-2015, 09:57 AM   #50
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That's two threads now. You really seem to have a grudge against cops, don't you?

Would your response be any different if this murdered police officer was one of your close friends or family? Because you don't seem to care much for his.

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That's two threads now. You really seem to have a grudge against cops, don't you?

Would your response be any different if this murdered police officer was one of your close friends or family? Because you don't seem to care much for his.
Total of 3 threads now.

The sad part is, he has three threads about cops on the first page to post it in.
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