Had this ready to post in the game thread, but may as well stick it here. To everyone whinging about our PP:
Our PP is 17th in the league. Last season it was 24th. Boston, Anaheim, Montreal, Dallas, Colorado all have a worse PP ratio than we do, with all their elite forwards and expensive rosters. We have 25 PPGs halfway through the season. Last season we had 39 total.
Our PP is not garbage, not terrible, not awful. Its not great, but what do people expect? We have no elite forwards. We have arguably one power forward. We have no real PP specialists like Shattenkirk, Giroux, Kane etc. For our PP to operate at this ratio with the units we have is pretty good I think.
As for the game, a few silly mistakes get punished yet again. Bad turnover by Raymond and Oilers level defending by Engelland for the first. Monahan lost Zetterburg for the 2nd and our PK is what it is. I felt Johnny really missed Hudler, he had a few shots but other than that was pretty ineffective.
I didn't feel like we played a bad game tonight, Detriot just used their extra experience to wait for our mistakes and punish them. They jumped on every turnover and every bad play and then just held onto it as they so good at doing.
As for us in a good sense, Backlund was excellent, easily our best player tonight. Not bad considering how long he has been out. Also seemed to help give some extra energy to Jones, Byron and Raymond.
Got to look at beat Florida now ahead of the brutal road trip we have coming up. Hope Ramo is ok too.
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Getting rid of Glencross would pretty sum up the definition of addition by subtraction. For every 1 thing he does right, he does 1.5 things wrong/stupidly/selfishly.
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People need to take off the Flames glasses and realize that Mrazek let up on the bad offside call. He heard the whistle like the rest of the wings and stopped up. It was a bad call, but putting this loss on the linesman is ridiculous.
And the mask goal was absolutely the right call.
Just a couple bad breaks went against the Flames in the final push there, it happens, but the pitchforks for the refs is a bit much.
Getting rid of Glencross would pretty sum up the definition of addition by subtraction. For every 1 thing he does right, he does 1.5 things wrong/stupidly/selfishly.
Hahaha, hilarious.
He's an awesome underrated player. The Flames would miss him.
A one goal loss after 4 days of and another player making a come back. I'll take it. DET's been playing well of late anyways. Take it for what it is, another competitive game that could have gone either way.
These losses are not gimme points for the opposition and that's the thing for me at least.
Backlund didn't miss a beat. Could be adrenaline but if he can keep that up consistently, it's a boon for the team.
Getting rid of Glencross would pretty sum up the definition of addition by subtraction. For every 1 thing he does right, he does 1.5 things wrong/stupidly/selfishly.
I've been a Glencross defender for a while but I'm starting to view it that way as well. He does a lot of good, but he does a lot of bad too
Had this ready to post in the game thread, but may as well stick it here. To everyone whinging about our PP:
Our PP is 17th in the league. Last season it was 24th. Boston, Anaheim, Montreal, Dallas, Colorado all have a worse PP ratio than we do, with all their elite forwards and expensive rosters. We have 25 PPGs halfway through the season. Last season we had 39 total.
Our PP is not garbage, not terrible, not awful. Its not great, but what do people expect? We have no elite forwards. We have arguably one power forward. We have no real PP specialists like Shattenkirk, Giroux, Kane etc. For our PP to operate at this ratio with the units we have is pretty good I think.
As for the game, a few silly mistakes get punished yet again. Bad turnover by Raymond and Oilers level defending by Engelland for the first. Monahan lost Zetterburg for the 2nd and our PK is what it is. I felt Johnny really missed Hudler, he had a few shots but other than that was pretty ineffective.
I didn't feel like we played a bad game tonight, Detriot just used their extra experience to wait for our mistakes and punish them. They jumped on every turnover and every bad play and then just held onto it as they so good at doing.
As for us in a good sense, Backlund was excellent, easily our best player tonight. Not bad considering how long he has been out. Also seemed to help give some extra energy to Jones, Byron and Raymond.
Got to look at beat Florida now ahead of the brutal road trip we have coming up. Hope Ramo is ok too.
The PP may not be garbage over the season, but tonight it was bad. The zone entries were really bad, there was little generated in front of the net, and they didn't adjust to the Wings standing up at the blue line by dumping and chasing (the odd time they tried it it worked).
The PP may not be garbage over the season, but tonight it was bad. The zone entries were really bad, there was little generated in front of the net, and they didn't adjust to the Wings standing up at the blue line by dumping and chasing (the odd time they tried it it worked).
Thats as maybe, but most of the comments in the game thread were more along the lines of "our terrible PP" indicating that it wasn't 1(or 4) PP taken in isolation, but more people generally considering our PP to be much worse than is actually is.
Its not great, but I have no real problem with our PP struggling against a team thats good on the kill. They have wily old heads on that Detriot team, i'm not going to criticise our guys for being outsmarted by theirs.
It's great he makes a limited salary but I don't see how that's a counter to his post. Pylon thinks Glencross' negative values are outweighed by his positive ones, I doubt he thinks that bad on salary and it's not like he's the only person whose had those thoughts before.
People need to take off the Flames glasses and realize that Mrazek let up on the bad offside call. He heard the whistle like the rest of the wings and stopped up. It was a bad call, but putting this loss on the linesman is ridiculous.
And the mask goal was absolutely the right call.
Just a couple bad breaks went against the Flames in the final push there, it happens, but the pitchforks for the refs is a bit much.
Why do people start posts like you did?
Any decent point you made is totally dusted off by that condescending opening line.
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Sure but it didn't cost the Flames the game. It cost the Flames a decent scoring opportunity.
Not to mention they're making that call at full speed and only have a split second to decide. It was pretty damn close that we only realize it's the wrong call for sure on replay.
It was a blown call in the last minute, of course there's going to be disdain in the post game thread. Not sure a hall monitor like reaction is really needed. This is the post game thread. It's exactly the time and place to be venting about something like a bad call late in the game.
