01-06-2015, 01:41 PM
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#41
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
Holy crap! Almost 30 minutes without a shot attempt for the Leafs
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fyp, in bold. That's so much worse actually.
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01-06-2015, 01:46 PM
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#42
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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The Toronto media must be insufferable to deal with day in and day out.
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01-06-2015, 01:57 PM
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#44
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by burn_this_city
The Toronto media must be insufferable to deal with day in and day out.
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It's not just the constant MLSE meddling but the local media second guessing pretty well every single move the head coach makes on a daily basis. It's like Leafs media isn't happy unless they are writing a controversial piece about the coach or players, etc. The entire environment is pretty toxic.
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01-06-2015, 01:59 PM
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#45
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by Titan
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Nothing most didn't already know. When your highest paid and best player is a lazy, fat dude it's hard to imagine that there's a "do whatever it takes to win" mentality in the locker room.
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01-06-2015, 02:05 PM
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#46
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Van City - Main St.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Resolute 14
The Jets game was the most dramatic demonstration of why Carlyle was fired. The Leafs have consistently been out shot, out chanced and out everythinged while he was coach.

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Am I the only person who's head hurts looking at this graph?
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01-06-2015, 02:08 PM
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#47
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates
Am I the only person who's head hurts looking at this graph? 
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Come on....the line in blue is Toronto.
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01-06-2015, 02:16 PM
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#48
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates
Am I the only person who's head hurts looking at this graph? 
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The fact that war on ice uses virtually the same colour for both teams does not help at all. But what I liked about it is that in the 30-minute period where Toronto generated only one shot attempt at five on five, Winnipeg had about 20. This despite the fact that half the time was spent with one team or another on a man-power advantage.
It has also been noted around Twitter that guys who were poor possession players under Carlyle got a lot better after leaving Toronto. That guys who were good under Wilson turned to crap under Carlyle, and that there are guys who were good pre-Carlyle, crappy under him and good post-Carlyle. In short, Carlyle's system was terrible.
Another image of how the Leafs got bludgeoned in terms of shot attempts under Carlyle. It wasn't a short term trend or bad period of play. The Leafs were consistently and constantly out shot game after game after game. Orange bar is where Carlyle is hired:
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01-06-2015, 02:19 PM
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#49
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by burn_this_city
The Toronto media must be insufferable to deal with day in and day out.
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i used to, and still hate the leafs, which was built up growing up in Calgary. Now i live in TO, have been for 10 years (15 years if you include university in ontario).
What i have realized is that the media here is a frigin ridiculous. The team wins 2 games in a row and they are talking about how their players are amazing and need to be extended, and if they lose 2 they are trading everyone away, firing the coach/gm. This absolutely creeps into the dressing room. With the leafs lacking any real leaders last season, it is no surprise they went on the massive losing run that cost them the playoffs.
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01-06-2015, 02:53 PM
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#51
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In the Sin Bin
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In fairness, Feschuck is an idiot. Kessel needs to know better though.
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01-06-2015, 02:55 PM
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#52
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Resolute 14
The fact that war on ice uses virtually the same colour for both teams does not help at all. But what I liked about it is that in the 30-minute period where Toronto generated only one shot attempt at five on five, Winnipeg had about 20. This despite the fact that half the time was spent with one team or another on a man-power advantage.
It has also been noted around Twitter that guys who were poor possession players under Carlyle got a lot better after leaving Toronto. That guys who were good under Wilson turned to crap under Carlyle, and that there are guys who were good pre-Carlyle, crappy under him and good post-Carlyle. In short, Carlyle's system was terrible.
Another image of how the Leafs got bludgeoned in terms of shot attempts under Carlyle. It wasn't a short term trend or bad period of play. The Leafs were consistently and constantly out shot game after game after game. Orange bar is where Carlyle is hired:
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They always won more than you'd guess from their shot attempts though.
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01-06-2015, 02:57 PM
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#53
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by PeteMoss
They always won more than you'd guess from their shot attempts though.
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Yes they did. But not enough to be anything but mediocre in the end.
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01-06-2015, 03:16 PM
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#54
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by atb
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Who asked him the question?
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01-06-2015, 03:22 PM
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#55
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Upstate NY
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The Flames and Leafs have identical 21-16-3 records, yet the atmosphere around each team couldn't be more different.
It's like two teams passing on the stairs... one on the way up and one on the way down.
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01-06-2015, 03:38 PM
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#56
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flame19,289
The Flames and Leafs have identical 21-16-3 records, yet the atmosphere around each team couldn't be more different.
It's like two teams passing on the stairs... one on the way up and one on the way down.
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The Oilers corpse is lying on the basement floor at the bottom of the stairs.
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01-06-2015, 03:50 PM
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#57
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Odd timing. No doubt he was going to be fired in the offseason barring a long playoff run but what interim coach is going to make the team play unquestionably better?
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Seriously? Look at their shots against. Of course an assistant can improve that.
If Maclean and Deboer can be fired, why not Carlyle?
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01-06-2015, 03:57 PM
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#58
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Vancouver
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Idiotic question. Nothing wrong with Kessel's reaction.
Also, was CBC's headline under the video intentional (Kessel gets testy with reporter)? Didn't Kessel have testicular cancer once? Kind of in bad taste.
I honestly don't know why Kessel is such a target for the media.
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01-06-2015, 04:01 PM
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#59
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Igottago
Idiotic question. Nothing wrong with Kessel's reaction.
Also, was CBC's headline under the video intentional (Kessel gets testy with reporter)? Didn't Kessel have testicular cancer once? Kind of in bad taste.
I honestly don't know why Kessel is such a target for the media.
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Also in bad taste, but Ron Wilson said a coach would have to have balls to bench Kessel when he was bashing him earlier.
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01-06-2015, 04:05 PM
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#60
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Igottago
Idiotic question. Nothing wrong with Kessel's reaction.
Also, was CBC's headline under the video intentional (Kessel gets testy with reporter)? Didn't Kessel have testicular cancer once? Kind of in bad taste.
I honestly don't know why Kessel is such a target for the media.
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Kessel is a nice guy who survived cancer. It's stupid he's been bashed more than any player the past few years.
And CBC loves the Leafs, right guys?
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